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    Need help choosing a 2013 Leaf in Miami and advise on how to get it back to Tampa

    You are going to have to stop 4 to 5 times to charge (at 30 min each if it's a quick charge station.... 4 + hours otherwise!!!) so that's an extra 2.5 hours.... if it were me I would rent a tow dolly and tow it home.
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    Wholesale value of the 2013 Leaf @Auction-March '18

    From what I am seeing the prices are going down, not up (at least here on the East Coast). Also the prices are very regional as Leafs bring more on the West Coast than they do on the East Coast. I started a tread with a lot more data than just the screen shot of the MMR...
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    Price to retrofit a used 2011-2015 Leaf with a new 30 kWh (or higher) battery?

    Selling it $5k cheaper does nothing to the possibility of a warranty claim.
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    2013 Leaf bar loss.

    Which makes the leaf look less and less attractive!!!
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    Price to retrofit a used 2011-2015 Leaf with a new 30 kWh (or higher) battery?

    Havent thought of this till now but if I were Nissan, I would take all lease end cars and pull the packs with 11 or 10 bars and install new 30KWh packs in them (or even 24KWh lizards). They would bring a premium at the sales. Then all the old packs could be sent for warranty claims.
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    Manheim Georgia Leaf sale results (Sept 22 - Now)

    Prices have again dropped a good bit this week. MY16 with the better range/warranty should start showing up real soon and if I were a dealer I would not want to be sitting on a bunch of old leafs as the margins on them do not look very good. My guess is dealers may be taking a loss on them if...
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    Manheim Georgia Leaf sale results (Sept 22 - Now)

    Oct 6th: 2015 Nissan LEAF S 1N4AZ0CP4FC315304 Blue| Black Odometer 5,916 mi CR 2.9 $12,600 2015 Nissan LEAF S 1N4AZ0CPXFC303951 White | — Odometer 24,177 mi CR 3.3 QC 2013 Nissan LEAF S 1N4AZ0CP2DC416449 Red | Black Odometer 12,943 mi CR 2.3 QC 2013 Nissan LEAF S 1N4AZ0CP8DC415970 Silver |...
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    2013 Leaf bar loss.

    I know this is somewhat off topic but hobbyguy has lost 6 bars on his 11 so far. To me this is a clear indication that the battery is defective and should qualify for replacement under the 8 year / 100,000 mile warranty! I understand Nissan's decision to not warranty the battery when it lost the...
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    2013 Leaf bar loss.

    I wish I had the exact temps too... oh well. There are lots of speculation about the 13's battery being lizards or not... to me it looks like they were shifting from the old to the new. Early build dates like 3/13 + 4/13 were old chemistry. From there it looks like a mix of old and new. 8/13 on...
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    2013 Leaf bar loss.

    http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=18269 Has more info......
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    2013 Leaf bar loss.

    Well I'm doing some research on Manheim to answer my question. Maybe this data will help others. Manufacturer date, service date, mileage, bars, location: 2/13, 5/13, 37,800, 11 Bars, CA 1/13, 3/13, 36,800, 10 Bars, HI 4/13, 5/13, 35,100, 12 Bars, FL 3/13, 4,13, 35,100, 9 Bars, HI 9/13, 9/13...
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    2013 Leaf bar loss.

    I looked and cant find any posts of people with a 2013 with any bars lost. Is this data posted anywhere?? Search does not turn up anything. I am having a hard time deciding between a 2013 or a 2015 based on the current wholesale price vs deals on the 15's. To me it seems Nissan made the 13's...
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    NOT A 30KWh in a 2011.... . VIN 5821

    The seller emailed a copy of the service slip. It listed the part # as 295B03NF9E. They could not confirm with their parts provider the specs but now "the Master Technician who serviced the vehicle and he believes that it is more than likely the Next Generation 24 kWh Hot-Pack" So yea this...
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    NOT A 30KWh in a 2011.... . VIN 5821

    Seller has not emailed back but I see they revised their auction and removed the 30 kWh in the description. I wonder if the person that has a bid will notice....
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    NOT A 30KWh in a 2011.... . VIN 5821

    Here is his response: That is a very interesting question. I am a former Kennedy Space Center employee. My job ended with the shuttle program. I hold a Master of Science in Electrical Engineering and have been assigned to be the resident Leaf expert. We are short staffed today and I am working...
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    NOT A 30KWh in a 2011.... . VIN 5821

    The seller works for the Nissan dealership. Here is his reply: Your previous message Can you confirm this is in fact a 30KWH battery (as in the 2016 SV/SL) and not the 24KWH "lizard" battery introduced in the 2015 model. New message from: patfischernissan (0) Also, I forgot to mention...
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    NOT A 30KWh in a 2011.... . VIN 5821

    I think you are exactly right. I asked him to confirm with the service department and let me know the part # used for this replacement.
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    NOT A 30KWh in a 2011.... . VIN 5821

    I messaged the seller: Your previous message Can you confirm this is in fact a 30KWH battery (as in the 2016 SV/SL) and not the 24KWH "lizard" battery introduced in the 2015 model. New message from: patfischernissan (0) Yes. It is a replacement battery. The range has shown any where from...
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    NOT A 30KWh in a 2011.... . VIN 5821

    it is listed as 30kwh... New Latest Generation Battery Extended Range.... if it is not a 30kwh battery (which I doubt it is) they could be liable for false advertising. I could see how this could turn into a lawsuit when the buyer gets 80 miles and not 116 and figures out the dealer lied. One...
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    NOT A 30KWh in a 2011.... . VIN 5821

    Take a look: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nissan-Leaf-SL-Quick-Charge-116-Mile-Range-Warranty-No-Reserve-/252110686189?forcerrptr=true&hash=item3ab2f7c7ed&item=252110686189 Either the dealer that is selling this doesn't know what the hell they are talking about or the 30kw pack will work in a 2011....
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