Official Coda Electric Car thread

JasonA said:

GlennD said:

One of my local users came by with his CODA and a JuiceBox Deluxe. The JuiceBox said on my Nick Sayer simulator that it was set for 16A. I measured it at 29A. It seems to me that the built in charger does not follow the J1772 spec. It is a 30A charger and that's what you get. To hell with the specs.

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You mean Rick?

I don't know how many local Coda guys we have? :lol:

Howdy CodaRick!

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Those new cars will have bigger batteries, still made by Lishen. While the original cars has a 31-kWh battery pack, the 700e will have a 40-kWh pack and Mullen and Lishen are working on a 50-kWh pack. Other difference include 16-inch low rolling resistance tires (instead of 17-inch low profile tires) and undercladding on the back end. Those changes turn the original 125-mile car into a 150-mile car, Curtis said, and with the new 40-kWh pack, it's over 180 miles. With the 50 kWh, that jumps to over 200 miles

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cwerdna said:

I definitely don't like how they're stretching the truth here. They're calling the original 88 mile on the EPA test 31 kWh car a "125 mile car". :roll:

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cwerdna said:

2014 LA Auto Show: Coda Sedan Reborn (Again) As Mullen 700e:
https://transportevolved.com/2014/11/18/2014-la-auto-show-coda-sedan-reborn-mullen-700e/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Devin said:

cwerdna said:

I definitely don't like how they're stretching the truth here. They're calling the original 88 mile on the EPA test 31 kWh car a "125 mile car". :roll:

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They might be referring to the original-original car, which had a 36kWh battery. The U.S. version had the outside block of cells removed after the Volt fire debacle instead of actually designing a proper safety mechanism, which brought U.S. spec Codas down to 31kWh. Either way, I wouldn't bet on seeing any Mullen 700Es driving around.

The Coda specs, design, and build quality were barely adequate in 2012, they're definitely lackluster compared to today's offerings.

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cwerdna said:

I just realized that PR piece at http://www.heraldonline.com/2014/11/10/6513647_colorados-first-all-electric-car.html?sp=/100/773/385/&rh=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; says

The nation’s first operational, all-electric car share service launched in Golden, Colo

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Really? I don't think that's right either.

AFAIK, the US DriveNow fleet (https://us.drive-now.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false was all-electric for a time, if isn't still. Their cars were solely BMW ActiveE's and they were supposed to add some i3's in the fleet (not sure if they'd add the BEV or REx versions).

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JasonA said:

That 700e :lol:

Fancy

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February 3, 2015 - 2:53 pm ET
SHANGHAI (Bloomberg) -- Qoros Automotive Co., the Shanghai-based joint venture between China’s Chery Automobile Co. and Israel Corp., appointed a former General Motors executive to run the company after struggling to boost its sales.

Phil Murtaugh, who has led GM’s China operations and ran the then-Chrysler Group’s Asian operations, started as CEO of Qoros on Monday, the company said in a statement. His predecessor, Guo Qian, had moved back to Chery.
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Murtaugh, 60, also was the CEO of electric carmaker Coda Automotive Inc., which filed for bankruptcy in 2013.

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cwerdna said:

Former GM exec Murtaugh hired as CEO of Chinese automaker Qoros:

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Mullen Technologies, Inc. has announced the final arrival of the initial line of the Mullen 700e All Electric Vehicles to its’ USA Headquarters in Benicia, CA
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Mullen opened the new USA Headquarters in July 2015 and plans to prepare over 1,000 vehicles per month into the American market by year end. The first 85 vehicles will be distributed to new dealers and franchisees in order to prepare the local markets for the new 2016 Mullen 700e which will be showcased at the Los Angeles Auto Show in November 2016. Mullen has also been exclusively importing the full line of Jonway Automotive low speed vehicles, which will also be processed in the new Benicia facility.

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co2112 said:

When I first started looking at getting an electric car the CODA was the first I heard about and followed. I never got a chance to see one in person until this past weekend when I went to a local parking garage and it was plugged into one of the two chargers.

It was a good concept but the old body style of the Mitsubishi Lancer was dated even before production. Having only sold a 100+ I was surprised to finally see one in the wild.

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cwerdna said:

Re: the Mullen 700e, when going thru http://www.mullenusa.com/news, I found http://www.mullenusa.com/mullen-technologies-inc-has-announced-the-final-arrival-of-the-initial-line-of-the-mullen-700e-all-electric-vehicles-to-its-usa-headquarters-in-benicia-ca/

Mullen Technologies, Inc. has announced the final arrival of the initial line of the Mullen 700e All Electric Vehicles to its’ USA Headquarters in Benicia, CA
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Mullen opened the new USA Headquarters in July 2015 and plans to prepare over 1,000 vehicles per month into the American market by year end. The first 85 vehicles will be distributed to new dealers and franchisees in order to prepare the local markets for the new 2016 Mullen 700e which will be showcased at the Los Angeles Auto Show in November 2016. Mullen has also been exclusively importing the full line of Jonway Automotive low speed vehicles, which will also be processed in the new Benicia facility.

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Emphasis added is mine.

Really? 1,000 per month that they plan to prepare? Do they really think they can move 1,000 a month of these in the US? Will it not go on sale until November 2016 or at some point earlier? Seems odd to not show it elsewhere earlier (e.g. Detroit auto show in January).

Remember that Coda only sold ~100 vehicles in its lifetime.

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WTF? Who the hell are these guys? Are they clueless? I test drove a Wheego Whip in late 2012 and it was a piece of crap. I also test drove a Coda at that EVent. Coda went bankrupt in 2013. They sold only about 100 cars.

I wonder if these guys are some sort of content farm or they just have no clue.

Also, funny enough about Mullen USA, they've now added some pics of a Mullen MX 05: https://mullenusa.com/mullen-mx-05/. More vaporware?

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LeftieBiker said:

They are trying to sell old trash as new analysis. I left a comment to that effect.

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