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Hummer seems out of style these days and I would not be surprised if the F350 went PHEV one of these years.

There was a prototype Silverado Hybrid, and it got good reviews. I don't think they ever produced it (or maybe did for one year?) but it did show that the technology is available. It doubled as a worksite power station!

EDIT: They still make it!
 
LeftieBiker said:
Hummer seems out of style these days and I would not be surprised if the F350 went PHEV one of these years.

There was a prototype Silverado Hybrid, and it got good reviews. I don't think they ever produced it (or maybe did for one year?) but it did show that the technology is available. It doubled as a worksite power station!

EDIT: They still make it!
There were two different hybrids of these. At first, there was the mild hybrid version (http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/07/automobiles/07AUTO.html?_r=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (likely a BAS solution). Then came the current two-modes (http://www.gmfleet.com/chevrolet/silverado-1500-hybrid-truck.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;). They hardly sell at all (see http://www.hybridcars.com/october-2013-dashboard/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and http://www.hybridcars.com/december-2012-dashboard" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;). I don't think their BAS mild-hybrid trucks sold any better.

When GM first had BAS mild hybrids cars and SUVs (e.g. Malibu Hybrid, Saturn Vue "Green Line", Saturn Aura Hybrid), they hardly sold and were notoriously unreliable. GM killed those, later came out w/two-modes trucks and SUVs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Hybrid_Cooperation#RWD.2F4WD_truck.2Fsuv" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) but those are virtually dead too and all other the partners involved (Chrysler, BMW and Mercedes) abandoned two-mode long ago. Chrysler built probably the fewest the out of all of them, before bailing out.

GM has resurrected BAS mild hyrbrids w/their 2nd gen that they refer to as eAssist. At least those are selling better than the Gen 1 mild hybrids.

edit: Found more URLs on the mild and two-mode trucks. Also, some info about the two-mode SUVs.
http://green.autoblog.com/2007/04/23/gm-discontinues-the-parallel-hybrid-silverado-and-sierra-trucks/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2007/11/gm-chevrolet-in.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://green.autoblog.com/2007/10/29/gm-two-mode-hybrid-suvs-to-start-at-about-40-000/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/11/14/gm-full-size-2-mode-hybrids-get-a-price-50-490-53-775/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
LTLFTcomposite said:
Saw the bird-on-a-wire zapping commercial run several times during games today. Porsche sending the message that electrification is the future can do more for evangelism than the combined voices of thousands of nerds.

Amen to that, brother!
 
OK now this is pretty cool. Who knew that the first car ever designed by Ferdinand Porsche was an EV?

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2014/01/27/first-porsche-1889/4941635/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

In the classic case of auto-collector's fantasy come true, P1 was discovered in a warehouse, where it had been untouched since 1902, the car company says.

In testimony to the inherent advantages of the EV's simplicity:

Ferdinand Porsche piloted the P1 across the finish line 18 minutes ahead of the second-place racer, the car company's history shows. Perhaps more important, P1 was among fewer than half the racers able to finish. The others dropped out because of technical problems.
 
LTLFTcomposite said:
OK now this is pretty cool. Who knew that the first car ever designed by Ferdinand Porsche was an EV?

Ooh, ooh I did, I did! (I work for Porsche) He also invented the in-wheel hub motor and built versions of pure BEVs and some with range extenders in both two wheel and four wheel hub drive. He was a very impressive man, around the age of 15 with no formal training he electrified his parents house.
 
Via GCC:
Porsche launches new Panamera 4 E-Hybrid plug-in hybrid with new gen hybrid module; more e-range, better performance
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2016/10/20161001-porsche.html

Porsche unveiled the new Panamera 4 E-Hybrid plug-in hybrid (earlier post)—the fourth model in the Panamera line—at the Paris Motor Show. The vehicle generates some 340 kW (462 hp) of system power and delivers fuel consumption figures of 2.5 l/100 km (94 mpg US) in the New European Driving Cycle (NEDC) for plug-in hybrid models, with up to 50 km (31 miles) all-electric range. That corresponds to CO2 emissions of 56 g/km. Energy consumption is 15.9 kWh/100 km. . . .

The new Porsche plug-in hybrid always starts in purely electric mode and drives without generating any local emissions within a range of around 50 kilometers and a maximum speed of 140 km/h (87 mph). . . .

The four-door hybrid sports car breaks the 100 km/h barrier in just 4.6 seconds. The torque is transferred to all four wheels and the standard three-chamber air suspension ensures an optimum balance between comfort and dynamism at all times.

As with the 918 Spyder, the power of the Panamera electric motor—100 kW (136 hp) and 400 N·m (295 lb-ft) torque—is available as soon as the driver touches the accelerator pedal. On the predecessor model, the pedal needed to be pressed at least 80% of the way down to unleash the additional power of the electric drive. . . .

And despite the fact that the energy content of the battery (which is integrated under the luggage compartment floor) has been increased from 9.4 to 14.1 kWh, its weight has remained the same.

The high-voltage battery takes just 5.8 hours to fully charge via a 230-V, 10-A connection. If the driver chooses to use the optional 7.2 kW on-board charger and a 230-V, 32-A connection instead of the standard 3.6-kW charger on the Panamera, the battery fully charges in just 3.6 hours. The charging process can also be started using a timer via Porsche Communication Management (PCM) or the Porsche Car Connect app (for smartphones and Apple Watch). Moreover, the Panamera 4 E-Hybrid is fitted as standard with auxiliary air conditioning to cool or heat the passenger compartment during charging. . . .

The Sport Chrono Package including the mode switch integrated into the steering wheel forms part of the standard equipment on the Panamera 4 E-Hybrid. The mode switch and Porsche Communication Management are used to activate the various driving modes. These modes include the familiar “Sport” and “Sport Plus” modes from the other Panamera models equipped with the Sport Chrono Package. The hybrid-specific modes are “E-Power”, “Hybrid Auto”, “E-Hold” and “E-Charge”. . . .

The Panamera 4 E-Hybrid is available to order now, with prices starting at €107,553 including VAT in Germany.
 
Standing by for an all electric 2 seater Porsche sports car that doesn't as much as the 918 spyder, with tax, over $1,000,000.00.

Maybe like 80K or so...
 
Via GCC:
Porsche reports ~60% of new Panamera models delivered in Europe are with plug-in hybrid drive; ramping up for Mission E
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2017/12/20171211-porsche.html

. . . The Panamera plug-in hybrids (Panamera 4 E-Hybrid and Panamera 4 E-Hybrid Executive) have a purely electric range of up to 50 kilometers (31 miles). (Earlier post). . . .

In some countries, the proportion of Panamera hybrids is even higher. In France, for example, the figure is 70%, in Austria it is more than 80% and in Belgium it is even more than 90%. In Norway, 90% of all Panamera customers order a hybrid model, while in Finland the figure is 85%.
. . .
 
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