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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:52 am

EVDRIVER wrote:The weight shift of regen in the rear does not cancel out the added benefits of the second motor for regen. There are other cases also. Please stop comparing other cars with different designs and tires and other factors like fwd to rwd. Let me correct myself, you can get more regen with two motor front and back vs one single motor. There is still power to gain on the rear


Maybe think and relate in terms of the available kinetic energy for actual regen.
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Thu Apr 26, 2018 12:03 pm

jlv wrote:
lpickup wrote:My expectation for a new car is that it better not require any visits to the service center for at least over a year/10K miles, and maybe 1-2 visits tops in the first 3 years.

That was my expectation before I got the LEAF. Not only was it in for service when 10 weeks old, but then I didn't have it for over 3 weeks.


That's been my experience as well whenever the LEAF needs to go in. Because there is only 1-2 LEAF certified techs at any given dealer, there is a queue, or in the case of the last time mine was in, he was off at training. Then when he came back we had a snowstorm and he had to be out. And then, despite all this training, he had to submit a ticket to Nissan (and by the way, this was for an ABS problem, probably no different than any other Nissan on the lot). And then they had to special order the part. All told it was 2 weeks, and unfortunately it's always been about 2 weeks any time it's been in.
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Thu Apr 26, 2018 12:09 pm

Zythryn wrote:I think you are reading too much into it. No one, in either thread, is “declaring victory”.
The way I read it is ‘so far so good’, not ‘it will never break since it hasn’t in three weeks’.


Okay, maybe. The exact quote was:

opencar wrote:Luckily in 3+ weeks of ownership on the TM3 and 2000 mi. I have yet to incur any problems that would require me to go to the service center.


Let's just say that I hope/expect that I don't have to be lucky to make it 3 weeks without having to go a service center. And if the general sentiment it that people that that make it 3 weeks without having to go to a service center are "lucky", then that's not a good thing.

In fact, this is quite relevant to my potential personal situation. I expect to get the car just prior to a 1600 mile round trip. It would not be cool at all to get stuck part way through the trip.
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Thu Apr 26, 2018 3:06 pm

Zythryn wrote:
opencar wrote:
drees wrote:Should be picking up my Model 3 next week and selling the Prius.


Have you tried “chill” mode?
It was a setting added fairly recently, so if it isn’t available under settings it should be available with the next update you get.

And congratulations 8-)


Thanks!
I like chill mode for when i'm taking people & my dog in the car since it smooths out the sometimes nauseating-inducing bursts of acceleration that i'm prone to take now. I'll be taking a day trip from SD to LA this weekend and checkout the Falcon 9 1st stage. Fun times!
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:13 pm

opencar wrote:
Thanks!
I like chill mode for when i'm taking people & my dog in the car since it smooths out the sometimes nauseating-inducing bursts of acceleration that i'm prone to take now. I'll be taking a day trip from SD to LA this weekend and checkout the Falcon 9 1st stage. Fun times!


Oooo, I’m jealous!
At the SpaceX lobby they used to have a big display showing the SuperCharger network. If you see it, could you check on the total miles charged? I saw this week that the Tesla fleet was up to 7.2 Billion Miles. It would be interesting to see what percentage of that the Superchargers are supplying.
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Sat Apr 28, 2018 4:36 pm

Zythryn wrote:
opencar wrote:
Thanks!
I like chill mode for when i'm taking people & my dog in the car since it smooths out the sometimes nauseating-inducing bursts of acceleration that i'm prone to take now. I'll be taking a day trip from SD to LA this weekend and checkout the Falcon 9 1st stage. Fun times!


Oooo, I’m jealous!
At the SpaceX lobby they used to have a big display showing the SuperCharger network. If you see it, could you check on the total miles charged? I saw this week that the Tesla fleet was up to 7.2 Billion Miles. It would be interesting to see what percentage of that the Superchargers are supplying.


Per your request:
402M kWh delivered
1.4B Miles enabled
62.9 M Gallons of gas saved
1.6B lbs CO2 offset
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2nd- 33K, 37mo, Ah=51.54
3rd- 41K, 46mo, Ah=47.47
4th- 49K, 53mo, Ah=43.28
Warranty Lizard- 50K, Oct'15
Jun'16- 56K, Ah=66.14
Aug'17- 70K, 22mo, Ah=59.9

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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Sat Apr 28, 2018 7:45 pm

^^ Thanks!

20% of miles from Supercharging.
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Sat Apr 28, 2018 8:30 pm

opencar wrote:Per your request:
402M kWh delivered
1.4B Miles enabled
62.9 M Gallons of gas saved
1.6B lbs CO2 offset


Many thanks!
Close to 20%, that has, unsurprisingly, grown quite a bit.
Hope you enjoyed the visit!
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Mon Apr 30, 2018 1:29 am

RegGuheert wrote:
mtndrew1 wrote:The Model 3, restricted to the most expensive trim and options grouping with no lease available, no promotional financing, and no factory incentives or advertising just outsold the Leaf by 2.5x.
It's more likely that the Nissan LEAF outsold the Tesla Model 3 by 2.5X to 3.0X in March. This even though LEAF production started months after Model 3 production started.
It looks like the final numbers say that in March the LEAF sold 11,105 copies while the Model 3 sold 3820 copies. That is a ratio of 2.9 to 1.

For the year so far, the Nissan LEAF has outsold the Tesla Model 3 by 21,959 to 8180 or a ratio of 2.7 to 1. Since Nissan is likely to have sold over 10,000 LEAFs this month while Tesla likely sold under 10,000 Model 3s, Nissan's lead in 2018 has almost certainly grown further, though the ratio has likely shrunk.
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Mon Apr 30, 2018 5:18 am

RegGuheert wrote:
RegGuheert wrote:
mtndrew1 wrote:The Model 3, restricted to the most expensive trim and options grouping with no lease available, no promotional financing, and no factory incentives or advertising just outsold the Leaf by 2.5x.
It's more likely that the Nissan LEAF outsold the Tesla Model 3 by 2.5X to 3.0X in March. This even though LEAF production started months after Model 3 production started.
It looks like the final numbers say that in March the LEAF sold 11,105 copies while the Model 3 sold 3820 copies. That is a ratio of 2.9 to 1.

For the year so far, the Nissan LEAF has outsold the Tesla Model 3 by 21,959 to 8180 or a ratio of 2.7 to 1. Since Nissan is likely to have sold over 10,000 LEAFs this month while Tesla likely sold under 10,000 Model 3s, Nissan's lead in 2018 has almost certainly grown further, though the ratio has likely shrunk.


Worldwide, most certainly. In the US, sadly no.
As Tesla did not have a mature production and distribution already in place, I would be quite surprised if the Model 3 could compare worldwide.
Let’s let Tesla get up to speed with at least one factory before we draw conclusions.
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