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Re: Official Kia Soul EV thread

Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:29 pm

Via IEVS:
2016 Kia Soul EV: 1 Year Review – Video
http://insideevs.com/2016-kia-soul-ev-1 ... iew-video/
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Re: Official Kia Soul EV thread

Sun Oct 23, 2016 3:13 am

Kia seems to be ramping up in New England. Added L2s in Warwick RI and Framingham MA, and Framingham shows 4 Soul EVs in stock. Previously only 2 dealers south of Hartford CT carried them.
'12 SL last reading @ 2 yr, 22k, 260 GIDs, 62.35 Ahr

'15 SV w/QC, Mfd 5/14, Leased 8/14, 292 GIDs, 64.38 Ahr when new

@ 25 months, 25k, 267 GID, 56.88 AHr
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Re: Official Kia Soul EV thread

Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:40 pm

Via IEVS:
2018 Kia Soul EV Gets Ever-So Slight Battery Upgrade, Range Jumps Up To ~113 Miles
http://insideevs.com/2018-kia-soul-ev-g ... y-upgrade/

2018 Kia Soul EV has more range from 30-kWH battery, leaked docs claim

A pair of leaked documents from Kia indicates the brand is fitting a 30-kilowatt-hour battery in the Soul EV as a replacement for the existing 27 kWh pack, according to Kia-World. The model’s electric motor continues to produce 109 horsepower (81.4 kilowatts) and 210 pound-feet (285 Newton-meters).

According to one of these documents, Kia reports the larger battery boosts the model’s range in the Korean testing cycle to 112 miles (180 kilometers) – versus 92 miles (148 km) currently. A leak from a dealer in Germany indicates the Soul EV would be able to go 155 miles (250 km) based on the New European Driving Cycle’s evaluation – as opposed to 132 miles (212 km) now. . . .

EPA currently rates it at 93, which is where IEVS' 113 estimate for the new pack comes from. Not enough, IMO - I think ca. 125 miles/200km EPA at the same or lower price is the new lower limit that is acceptable to a reasonable number of consumers.
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Re: Official Kia Soul EV thread

Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:54 pm

I'm thinking this capacity improvement must be a stopgap measure until the Niro EV is ready in 2018, at which point the Soul EV is likely to be scrapped.

The Niro shares its structure with the Ioniq, so we know that a 31 kWh (28 usable) pack fits in the car now and Hyundai has been very vocal that a capacity bump is coming by mid 2018.

I expect a 40 kWh Niro EV will dovetail with the cancellation of the Soul EV. The products are too similar.
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Re: Official Kia Soul EV thread

Fri Sep 01, 2017 11:16 am

Living at ~2,100 ft elevation, and ~1600 ft above the valley floor, the one thing I really liked about the Soul was it still having the 80% charge option...

The 2018 Soul EV's range has been certified by the EPA at 111 miles. Combined MPGe has risen from 105 to 108 MPGe and consumption drops from 32 kWh/100 miles to 31 kWh/100 miles.

A large part of the range increase was the deletion of the 80% charge option; if this option is present then 80 and 100% SOC will be averaged for the window sticker number. As such, the '15-'17 Soul EVs would have had a 100% SOC EPA range of ~103 miles. The '17 Soul EV omitted the 80% charge option but Kia didn't pay to have the car recertified until the '18 model year.

So in reality the '18 Soul EV picks up eight miles of real EPA range and 3 MPGe...

,,,Yes. They have removed the 80% option and that accounts for some of the change. But the real changes are equally / more important.

The actual increase in usable battery energy capacity is 11% (from 27kWh to 30kWh)
This is achieved by
Increasing the number of cells by 4% (from 192 to 200 - was 96 cells pairs now 100)
Improving the cell capacity by 7% (from 75Ah to 80Ah)

The 2018 Soul is also more efficient because of the higher voltage, But weighs more because of the larger battery....

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