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Re: Official VW e-Golf thread - $29,815

Thu May 25, 2017 10:12 pm

Scaramanga wrote:Is the only way to get an e-Golf in Seattle to buy a used one?


Or import from a dealer in Oregon.
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Re: Official VW e-Golf thread - $29,815

Tue Jun 06, 2017 10:20 am

Once again, VW pulls up in the rear of the column of BEV intro's.

If the E-golf 8 was coming out this year, both Nissan and Tesla might have some real competition...

Volkswagen e-Golf 8 to get a 48 kWh battery

... in 2019.

Auto Bild reports that the next generation Volkswagen Golf 8 in its electric variant will get a 48 kWh battery, enough for 420 km (NEDC) range. If this proves to be true, it means that Volkswagen will finally start to use battery cells designed for BEVs in their full electric cars...

This next generation Volkswagen e-Golf 8 is expected to be the last electrified effort from Volkswagen before moving to an entirely new platform, the Modular Electrification Toolkit (MEB), which is showcased with the I.D. concept. This concept electric car has been advertised with a 600 km (NEDC) range, which would translate to a more realistic 400 km (249 miles) range...

http://pushevs.com/2017/06/05/volkswage ... h-battery/
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Re: Official VW e-Golf thread - $29,815

Tue Jun 06, 2017 10:52 am

edatoakrun wrote:Once again, VW pulls up in the rear of the column of BEV intro's.

If the E-golf 8 was coming out this year, both Nissan and Tesla might have some real competition...

Volkswagen e-Golf 8 to get a 48 kWh battery

... in 2019.

Auto Bild reports that the next generation Volkswagen Golf 8 in its electric variant will get a 48 kWh battery, enough for 420 km (NEDC) range. If this proves to be true, it means that Volkswagen will finally start to use battery cells designed for BEVs in their full electric cars...

This next generation Volkswagen e-Golf 8 is expected to be the last electrified effort from Volkswagen before moving to an entirely new platform, the Modular Electrification Toolkit (MEB), which is showcased with the I.D. concept. This concept electric car has been advertised with a 600 km (NEDC) range, which would translate to a more realistic 400 km (249 miles) range...

http://pushevs.com/2017/06/05/volkswage ... h-battery/


If it still drives like a Golf and has a starting MSRP under $30k like the current eGolf, then VW will find a market for it.
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Re: Official VW e-Golf thread - $29,815

Tue Jun 06, 2017 1:24 pm

If it still drives like a Golf and has a starting MSRP under $30k like the current eGolf, then VW will find a market for it.


And if those idiots finally give it a heated steering wheel, it will sell well in the 75% of the country that has real Winters.
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Re: Official VW e-Golf thread - $29,815

Tue Jun 06, 2017 1:41 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:
If it still drives like a Golf and has a starting MSRP under $30k like the current eGolf, then VW will find a market for it.


And if those idiots finally give it a heated steering wheel, it will sell well in the 75% of the country that has real Winters.


Of all of the cars I've owned, exactly one has had a heated steering wheel. And I've almost always lived with a real winter (try visiting Potsdam, NY during February - I spent 4 winters living there!). It is a luxury that I appreciate, but far from a deal-breaker. I know that you find it a necessity, but you must recognize that your condition puts you in the minority. Most people with healthy circulation are perfectly fine with wearing gloves, and won't let that deter them from buying a car they otherwise like.
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Re: Official VW e-Golf thread - $29,815

Tue Jun 06, 2017 1:53 pm

While maybe not a total deal breaker, a heated steering wheel is more of a plus than say a CD player or XM, also more important than a 4th button on my remote for the charge port, heck I can think of a lot of things I'd trade for the steering wheel to be heated. The Leaf is the first vehicle that I've owned with such a luxury, heck it's my wife's favorite feature on my Leaf. She's she said she could think of a lot of things to trade on her Prius for my heated steering wheel 8-)

I imagine at one point a heated steering wheel will be as common as heated seats, which again I'd probably trade for a heated steering wheel. It's quite rare when I use my heated seats(my wife is a different story) but my heated steering wheel basically never gets turned off from October to March.
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Re: Official VW e-Golf thread - $29,815

Tue Jun 06, 2017 2:19 pm

Alright, I see in our vast sample set, we have 67% of people who weigh a heated steering heavily when choosing their next car. My presumption was that there is a large percentage of people would buy a car without one, without thinking twice. Clearly none of us know for sure what the masses would choose, so I'll just concede that it's a strong selling point to some.

I still think they'd find a market for a 2019 eGolf with a 48kWh battery, slightly larger motor, and little to nothing else changed, all for under $30k. Keep in mind that typical US eGolf sales are on the order of 300-400 per month. Probably just enough to meet their CARB quota. I don't expect VW to break into real volume until the ID-based EVs arrive sometime around 2020.
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Re: Official VW e-Golf thread - $29,815

Tue Jun 06, 2017 3:09 pm

EV drivers are not just a similar subset of ICE drivers. Why is the heated steering wheel so important, even to those without poor circulation? I believe that it's because once you are driving a car with virtually instant heat, and heated seats, having a frigid steering wheel in your hands stops being a typical driving factor and suddenly stands out like a sore - nay, frozen! - thumb. I also went decades without one, but once I experienced the comfort of having it, it did indeed become a deal breaker. I'm not alone. VW is not currently in a position to tell drivers, in effect, "You'll accept vhat ve offer, and be happy with it!" They'd better be trying to please environmentally-oriented drivers, who are starting to prefer hybrids and EVs.
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Re: Official VW e-Golf thread - $29,815

Tue Jun 06, 2017 3:46 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:And if those idiots finally give it a heated steering wheel, it will sell well in the 75% of the country that has real Winters.


Doesn't seem to bother the Europeans who have "real winter" as well.
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Re: Official VW e-Golf thread - $29,815

Tue Jun 06, 2017 3:49 pm

jjeff wrote:I imagine at one point a heated steering wheel will be as common as heated seats, which again I'd probably trade for a heated steering wheel. It's quite rare when I use my heated seats(my wife is a different story) but my heated steering wheel basically never gets turned off from October to March.


And one day, Nissan will invent a steering wheel heater that maintains a consistent, pleasant level of warmth rather than wildly fluctuating between ice cold and Hades.

Personally I like heated seats. I use them even in summer to soothe my back.
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