GRA wrote:I was talking about general capabilities and similarity to ICE habits, not the fueling infrastructure. Obviously, building the fueling infrastructure will be expensive and take several decades, just as building the gas station infrastructure did (last year being the 100th anniversary of the first gas station in the U.S. The total at the peak was around 160,000, but has now declined to something over 100,000).
You can't get to a ICE like "habits" with an FCEV unless you have those 100,000 H2 stations all over the place. That is my point - there is no divorcing the fact of 6 H2 stations vs 100,000 gas stations and FCEV driving habits vs ICE driving habits.
This ridiculous FCEV "rollout" makes RAV4EV look like a widely distributed car
And you can't get to ICE habits without those gas stations either, although you can get some ways towards it by selling gas in general stores (as was the case before gas stations existed). And BEVs can't get anywhere without installing reasonably fast charging infrastructure, at home to get the maximum benefit, plus quick chargers en route. Public, for-profit charging has been a bust, because the long turn-over time and overhead costs make it a money loser. That's not a problem for gas stations, and it won't be for H2 stations either. So, sure, it will be expensive and it will take us many decades to get to large numbers of H2 fueling stations and FCEVs. But then, it took us well over a decade to get to 1 million gas cars on the road, so it's not as if FCEVs and H2s can't and won't grow together. And does anyone think that Tesla's Supercharger network can yet be described as _robust_? In two years, they've installed just under 100 in the U.S., to serve something like 25,000 cars. At the current rate it will be at least 5 years before you can really go anywhere you want in the U.S. without having to plan your trip out in detail. And only if you can afford a BEV with Tesla range (not that FCEVs are any cheaper at the moment, but their projected cost reduction curves are still a lot steeper).
Obviously, absent home refueling FCEVs will need a higher number of stations per car than a BEV like a Tesla will, but then they can and will be put where people are instead of having to be put where they aren't to prevent local freeloaders (this being due to Tesla's business model rather than anything inherent in the Superchargers), so people won't have to change their behavior at all. Societal inertia is a powerful force; if you doubt it, just look at your keyboard layout. It's almost assuredly QWERTY, even though the technical reason for it ended at the very latest when IBM introduced the Selectric 53 years ago if not well before, and faster/more efficient keyboard layouts have been available for at least the past 80 years. But we're still using Qwerty because, even though it's less efficient, it's 'good enough' that most can't be bothered to make the effort to learn something new.