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Re: Toyota Mirai Fuel Cell

Tue May 02, 2017 5:23 pm

April U.S. Mirai sales per IEVS: 106 (417 YTD).
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Re: Toyota Mirai Fuel Cell

Thu Jun 01, 2017 4:54 pm

May U.S. Mirai sales per IEVS: 162 (579 YTD). The IEVS article has a mistake and says 305 YTD, which was the total at the end of March IIRR. Of note, the Clarity FCEV saw its leases jump to 119 in May (previous high 42 in January), so I think the word is spreading that it's a better car than the Mirai.
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Re: Toyota Mirai Fuel Cell

Mon Jul 03, 2017 5:39 pm

Via IEVS: June U.S. Mirai sales per IEVS: 126 (705 YTD). IEVS says the total is 708, but either that or the 126 sold has to be an error, as the YTD total last month was 579. Update: Jay has corrected the Mirai's June sales total to 129, which comes out to 708.
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Re: Toyota Mirai Fuel Cell

Mon Jul 03, 2017 5:42 pm

I still see these every now and then on the road. Saw on on the road yesterday. There seems to be at least two at my work: one a dark blue and the other's a lighter blue.

Helps that a hydrogen fueling station is just down the road from work.

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Re: Toyota Mirai Fuel Cell

Mon Jul 03, 2017 6:18 pm

cwerdna wrote:I still see these every now and then on the road. Saw on on the road yesterday. There seems to be at least two at my work: one a dark blue and the other's a lighter blue.

Helps that a hydrogen fueling station is just down the road from work.

I've started to see them a bit more often, although Clarity sightings still outnumber them, against all logic.
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Re: Toyota Mirai Fuel Cell

Tue Aug 01, 2017 2:09 pm

Per IEVS, in the U.S. the Mirai sold/leased 82 cars in July, making 790 YTD. The Clarity FCEV sold/leased the same 82. As noted in the Ca. H2 station thread, I believe the Model 3 with the bigger battery plus the SC network (and the failure to expand the H2 fueling network to allow more areas of the state to be reached) will/may already be having a major impact on Mirai/Clarity FCEV sales potential, and Toyota, Honda and any other FCEV manufacturers will have to drop prices and improve performance to compete. At the same time, the rate at which stations open must be increased, fuel prices must drop, and the areas of coverage must be radically expanded, if consumer FCEVs are to have a chance of success in California. Their window of opportunity is rapidly narrowing.
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Re: Toyota Mirai Fuel Cell

Tue Sep 05, 2017 5:36 pm

Per IEVS, 70 Mirais were sold/leased in August, making 760 YTD versus 641 YTD last year.
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Re: Toyota Mirai Fuel Cell

Tue Sep 05, 2017 8:37 pm

I was interested in the Mirai when they rolled them out. But 2 years later they still don't have adequate fueling infrastructure in place. And now the BEVs have adequate range for reasonable dollars. For me, their window of opportunity passed with Leaf 2.0 being released.

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Re: Toyota Mirai Fuel Cell

Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:58 pm

GRA wrote:Per IEVS, 70 Mirais were sold/leased in August, making 760 YTD versus 641 YTD last year.

I would be interested in public sales excluding fleet and employees.
Still the numbers are real low to try to mark any trend.
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Re: Toyota Mirai Fuel Cell

Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:47 am

smkettner wrote:
GRA wrote:Per IEVS, 70 Mirais were sold/leased in August, making 760 YTD versus 641 YTD last year.

I would be interested in public sales excluding fleet and employees.
Still the numbers are real low to try to mark any trend.


Somebody... please... stick a fork in this hydrogen car.

Don't worry for the hydrogen lobby... they have $200 million to play with for the next ten years, courtesy of the California tax payer.

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