WetEV wrote: GRA wrote:
WetEV wrote:... a BEV is always better than a FCEV. Do the math. Sure, the difference can be smaller when waste heat can be used. Most of heat from a fuel cell is wasted, most of the time, and will not be used. Advantage BEV.
As I've pointed out, few people will care.
So they will not care. Interesting, EVgo and Blink charge more for electric power than gasoline, and that is a "BEV killer", according to you. Hydrogen is going to be 3 to 4 times as much as EVgo and Blink, and no one will care. Interesting. Not convincing.
As I've said, H2 must be price-competitive with gas. It doesn't have to be superior. But BEVs are different, as long as they take far longer to replenish their energy, they have to be cheaper than gas. Otherwise, there's no advantage for the average person who has to drive to charge at a public station, just as they do with an ICE or FCE), and that's the situation for most of the world's drivers
. AVs with public wireless charging can eliminate that disadvantage for local use, at some loss of efficiency due to both charging and in deadhead miles, but aside from the air pollution benefits which most people don't care all that much about unless smog noticeably affects them personally, what's the compelling interest for the average person to switch?
WetEV wrote:A BEV is more convenient for most driving. You really need to commute with a BEV for a while to understand, GRA, just how nice it is to not have to take time out of a busy day to stop at a gasoline station. Or hydrogen station. Other than for a few people that only drive long distances, advantage BEV.
See my other post. A BEV is more convient than an ICE for routine local use, provided
you have a guaranteed place to charge it at home or work[/i]; otherwise not. I commute just fine without having to take time out of a busy day to stop at a gas station without owning a BEV. My ZEV cost me $250, used, and saves me lots on health care. Of course, for many longer intra-regional trips I do use a very energy-efficient ZEV (on a passenger-mile basis) along with my personal ZEV: https://goo.gl/images/PB7CB3
GRA wrote:most of the world's drivers do not live in detached single family homes with dedicated garages served by electricity, i.e. they do not have access to home charging.
For the umpteenth time, home charging isn't limited to "detached single family homes with dedicated garages served by electricity". Have a wall you park near? How about just a curb?
Very nice. For the umpteenth time, just who is going to pay for this in a rental housing property? You keep harking back to the convenience advantages of home charging, so how does a Tesla destination charger at a hotel have anything to do with that?