LTLFTcomposite wrote:I have a question Mr dgpcolorado if it isn't being too nosey: had EVs not existed would you have spent what you did on your Tesla on an ICE car? What sort of car would you have otherwise bought?
I'd likely have kept my '96 Jeep Cherokee or replaced it with a somewhat newer used car. My LEAF actually replaced my 25 year old VW Golf — 230,000 miles, purchased new for $8600 — which I lost to a collision with a deer; I had just done some expensive repairs on it and planned to keep it for another five years and then see how the EV market was shaking out.
No, cars aren't my "thing." Driving on sunpower is. To elaborate:
I installed my first solar panels in 2008 as "phase 1" of a future electric car (and the cost came from the "car replacement fund" line in my budget). As GRA knows, I bicycle commuted for most of my career — 43,000 miles worth. Then I retired to the mountains to get away from the congestion of cities and suburbia. The problem is that it is an inefficient way to live: no public transportation, too challenging in terrain and weather for daily bicycle commuting (although I still do some rides down to town for a severe workout), seventy mile grocery shopping trips with 2500 feet of elevation change.
To me, the obvious way to reduce the impact of using a car, at least a little, was by driving an EV and fueling it with sunpower. Nevertheless, I had to wait a long time before the LEAF became available (I bought mine in Oregon and had it trucked to Colorado because they weren't being sold here yet). To get my LEAF serviced I had to drive it over Red Mountain Pass — 11,018 feet — to Durango, which involved about seven hours of charging in Durango and additional charging at a motel in Silverton that happened to have a 240 V L6-30 outlet they were kind enough to let me use. I considered myself lucky that I didn't have to tow my LEAF 330 miles to Denver for service. As the battery degraded (I think the heating from the high kW needed to ascend steep grades contributed to the problem) the grocery shopping trips were no longer possible in winter but by that time a public charge station had opened up in my destination city, so I was able to keep going with the LEAF for several more years.
As I said before, buying and driving beater used cars is far more cost-effective than buying new cars, including EVs, even with the temporary tax credits. For someone who needs an urban commuter car, it is hard to beat a used LEAF — they can be had at bargain prices IME. For someone who wants one EV that can do local driving as well as very long road trips, a used Tesla is the only option unless one is wealthy enough for a new one. Or just keep burning oil, as most people do. I now only go to gas stations to buy 0.4 gallons at a time for my chainsaw.