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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:44 am

mtndrew1 wrote:I just did a round trip in my Model 3 between Los Angeles and Bisbee Arizona last weekend, *in* a long weekend!

It’s so bizarre to pop out on a 1200 mile road trip in an electric car with the cruise set to 10 MPH over and the HVAC cranking away without doing a spreadsheet and some advanced mathematics and a key ring of charging station membership cards and hoping and praying that the single CHAdeMO nozzle will be functional and that the key car reader will work and...and...

The car handled all the charging calculations and navigation (two 0.6 hr stops each direction) and was typically ready to go before I was. The predictions accurately accounted for speed, temperature, and elevation changes and was within 2% of its SOC prediction each time and was within 5 mins of estimated arrival time. Truly remarkable.

The car itself is of course very efficient and powerful and autopilot did ~85% of the driving and is truly a blessing in inclement weather. It drove better than I could have through some torrential downpours. It does have more wind noise than I like over ~75 MPH but the insane stereo easily drowned it out.

My total preparation was to enter the end point destination and my total charging prep was to arrive and insert the nozzle in the car.

Game changer. It’s just a regular, wonderful sports sedan.



Nice. Plus you did that in what sounds like bad weather.
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:15 pm

mtndrew1 wrote:...The car handled all the charging calculations and navigation (two 0.6 hr stops each direction) and was typically ready to go before I was. The predictions accurately accounted for speed, temperature, and elevation changes and was within 2% of its SOC prediction each time and was within 5 mins of estimated arrival time. Truly remarkable...
Remarkable indeed! I think people have to do a road trip like that in a Tesla to really appreciate just how easy it is. It is a paradigm shift in EV utility.
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Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:27 pm

dgpcolorado wrote:
mtndrew1 wrote:...The car handled all the charging calculations and navigation (two 0.6 hr stops each direction) and was typically ready to go before I was. The predictions accurately accounted for speed, temperature, and elevation changes and was within 2% of its SOC prediction each time and was within 5 mins of estimated arrival time. Truly remarkable...
Remarkable indeed! I think people have to do a road trip like that in a Tesla to really appreciate just how easy it is. It is a paradigm shift in EV utility.

As range and charging speeds continue to increase for all BEVs, they will come closer and closer to the holy grail of being fully able (in the public's eyes), of replacing liquid-fueled ICEs. 350kW CCS (the Taycan will charge at 280kW max.), now 400kW CHAdeMO, and China is talking about 900kW GB/T. As a 50mpg HEV can 'charge' 337kWh in one minute* there's still a way to go, but then you have to correct for efficiency.


*[Retail gas pumps are limited by reg. to a max. or 10gpm, and the EPA considers 1 gallon of gas to have an energy content of 33.7 kWh]
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Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:35 pm

They need to get more reliable and higher numbers before they start talking higher power. 400Kw is pointless if the network is not distributed and reliable, so far it s has been pretty poor. Also, I tried using the EV go sites and I can tel you they are full of it. They charge per min and deliver 39-45kw at best when claiming 50kw. Charge of ran hour at 40kw and you pay for 10Kwh you don't get. They also won't admit it and attempt to blame the car, etc. Very nice scam.
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:46 pm

EVDRIVER wrote:They need to get more reliable and higher numbers before they start talking higher power. 400Kw is pointless if the network is not distributed and reliable, so far it s has been pretty poor. Also, I tried using the EV go sites and I can tel you they are full of it. They charge per min and deliver 39-45kw at best when claiming 50kw. Charge of ran hour at 40kw and you pay for 10Kwh you don't get. They also won't admit it and attempt to blame the car, etc. Very nice scam.

Sure, any infrastructure has to be reliable, available where needed and affordable.
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:39 pm

https://electrek.co/2018/06/22/tesla-mo ... tion-wifi/
Model 3 vehicles on the new software update now have access to
1) Autopilot’s Summon feature,
2) cabin overheat protection and
3) WiFi.

Model 3 vehicles still had internet access, but it was only through the LTE service that Tesla provides with all its vehicles.
Tesla wrote in the release notes:
“With this release, Model 3 now connects to available Wi-Fi networks. Tap the LTE icon at the top of the touchscreen and select the network you want to join.”

Finally, Tesla also added Cabin Overheat Protection, another feature already available in Model S and Model X, to the Model 3 with this new update. Tesla wrote in the release notes:
“When active, your vehicle prevents the interior temperature from exceeding 105F/40C for up to 12 hours after you exit your vehicle.”

The automaker released the feature especially for parents afraid to forget their kids in the car on hot summer days.
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Sun Jun 24, 2018 9:40 pm

GRA wrote:
EVDRIVER wrote:They need to get more reliable and higher numbers before they start talking higher power. 400Kw is pointless if the network is not distributed and reliable, so far it s has been pretty poor. Also, I tried using the EV go sites and I can tel you they are full of it. They charge per min and deliver 39-45kw at best when claiming 50kw. Charge of ran hour at 40kw and you pay for 10Kwh you don't get. They also won't admit it and attempt to blame the car, etc. Very nice scam.

Sure, any infrastructure has to be reliable, available where needed and affordable.
Yes, as an indicator of how high a bar Tesla has set, I just drove 335 miles NorCal->SoCal in my Model 3. Cruising left lane, mostly AP, got 4.2 Mi/kWh and had my pick of where I felt like stopping for 20 minutes out of the entire 6 hr drive. Kettleman City, Buttonwillow, Bakersfield, Tejon were all I-5 options with Tesla's nav indicating how busy any particular Supercharger might be.
Only needed one stop: $8.06

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Sun Jun 24, 2018 9:50 pm

Fake news;)
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:45 am

Tesla seems to have opened up AWD to all first day USA reservation holders — this is new — as well as lowering prices for AWD and Performance and raising it slightly for some options. The delivery estimates have been pushed back a bit, likely to handle the expected rush of orders. Orders already placed will have the price adjusted lower before delivery.

AWD is now $4k (was $5k).
Performance/AWD is now $64k, with some of the features now included in a $5k Upgrade package (was $78k). The premium white interior is now a $1500 option for those who want it over the premium black interior (the white interior has been so popular that Tesla is having trouble getting enough from suppliers, so it is limited to just performance on the Model 3 for now). The Upgrade package includes an increase in top speed from 145 mph to 155 mph, 20 inch wheels, aluminum alloy pedals, and a carbon fiber spoiler. The base Performance comes with 18 inch aero wheels. Both versions have 3.5 second 0-60 times.

Delivery times are 2-4 months for Performance and 3-5 months for AWD and RWD. Those seem to be conservative since many dual motor cars will be delivered in the next couple of months. The base Standard Range is listed at six to nine months (about the same as before for most people).

Another black color ("Obsidian Metallic") has been added. (Why so many dull black and grey colors? I don't get it.) The price for Red Multi-Coat and White Multi-Coat has been raised to $1500; the other colors besides the base black remain at $1000: Midnight Silver Metallic (grey), Silver Metallic, Blue Metallic, Obsidian Metallic.

One curious price increase is that FSD (Full Self-Driving capability, when available) has been increased to $5k from $4k when purchased after delivery. It remains at $3k when ordered with the car. There are statements that suggest some self-driving features are going to be released soon, even though full self-driving remains a long way away for now.


Currently available to order now:

RWD + LR + PUP (Premium Upgrade Package) $49k

AWD + LR + PUP $53k

Performance + LR + PUP $64k

Performance + LR + PUP + white interior $65.5k

Performance + LR + PUP + Performance Upgrade $69k

Performance + LR + PUP + Performance Upgrade + white interior $70.5k

EAP (Enhanced Autopilot) remains a $5k option and FSD (Full Self-Driving capability) remains a $3k option for all models.


Not yet available to order:

SR (Standard Range), SR + PUP, LR without PUP, AWD without PUP.


[Edited to correct "Premium Upgrade" to "Performance Upgrade"]
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:08 am

dgpcolorado wrote:...
Performance + LR + PUP + Premium Upgrade $69k
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That’s a bit confusing to me: paying for a “Premium Upgrade Package (PUP)” and then paying for a “Premium Upgrade” separately. Can someone please explain the two types of “premium” Tesla is selling?

Speaking of “premium” things on Teslas, what is the monthly fee for premium internet access for those who purchase beginning July 1?
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