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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:10 pm

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Oils4AsphaultOnly wrote:
And you're begging the question. You can't ask the question "knowing" that the issue is demand - that's an ingrained assumption. As long as production hasn't reached their goal of a sustained 7k/week, then it's still a constraint. There were 5 ships in Jan with Teslas onboard for Europe and China, assuming 3000 cars per ship, plus the 6500 estimate for north america, that's barely less than 6k/week sustained production. Tesla only managed to hit peak production of 7k/week in Dec. Reverting back to a slower sustained production rate after a burst has been their SOP for awhile now.

There are many questions about the decision to reduce the price, but reduced demand is only one amongst many possible answers. Driving mindshare as a marketing tool to keep customers from even considering buying a gas vehicle is a better reason.


Incongruous hyperbolic rambling, as one might expect from a Tesla "fan boy"! And yes, Tesla's decision to have price reductions relates
to its benevolence, the concern for continued dominance of ICEV appeal verses BEV appeal, or its concern about increasing AGW, right?
Why be concerned about Tesla GAAP profitability, the CFO just quit , and when altruistic motives are believed to be more valued by
Tesla shareholders, e.g. fan boys? In all seriousness, given Elon, who really knows what motivates the decisions at Tesla.

And with regard to the M3, maybe as one financial analyst suggested with Tesla's recent acquisition of Maxwell, ultra-capacitors can
possibly help Tesla achieve the imaginary $35K M3 much sooner. Anyone want to calculate the size of the capacitor needed to replace
a 60 kWh battery? Remember energy stored in a capacitor is 1/2 C V^2.


Leave it to you to twist things around to suit your narratives. Note, ultracapacitors are too expensive to make a $35k M3 sooner. It's the dry electrode tech that might, so you're half right about the Maxwell acquisition.

As for the "CFO quit" narrative. The CFO announced his retirement. He still worked for Tesla at the time of the Q4 earnings call and had said that he will still be working there for a few more months to transition things to Zach Kirkhorn. Don't know if you remember, but he had retired before (2015 annual shareholders meeting), but had to come back because Wheeler wasn't up to the job. All the short headlines was that the CFO had quit. What happened to the Tesla bankruptcy that first time?

"incongruous hyperbolic rambling"? ... yeah, no comment.
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:31 pm

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Thanks @elonmusk for the first Tesla Model 3 in Europe. 1 week before scheduled!!
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:19 pm

Looks like Europe CCS version is working as expected on SuperCharger v1/v2.

Tesla Model 3 Charges At 117-kW On CCS
https://insideevs.com/tesla-model-3-cha ... kw-on-ccs/
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:21 am

Fastned posted this picture on Twitter. Must be European CCS. Hit over 125 kW it appears.
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:07 pm

I figured this should be added here. Some folks in another Tesla thread at viewtopic.php?p=549175#p549175 noticed today there's no longer any mention of the standard range version when you try to go through the order process online.

It used to say SR was coming 4-6 months and had said that as recently as in the past week or two. IIRC, it also had that "estimate" in 2018.

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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:47 am

cwerdna wrote:I figured this should be added here. Some folks in another Tesla thread at http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.p ... 75#p549175 noticed today there's no longer any mention of the standard range version when you try to go through the order process online.

It used to say SR was coming 4-6 months and had said that as recently as in the past week or two. IIRC, it also had that "estimate" in 2018.


I'm holding out that the MR (currently $37k with PUP) eventually gets price reduced to the $35k (without PUP), but might want to get that crow ready. :(
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:25 am

Oils4AsphaultOnly wrote:
cwerdna wrote:I figured this should be added here. Some folks in another Tesla thread at viewtopic.php?p=549175#p549175 noticed today there's no longer any mention of the standard range version when you try to go through the order process online.

It used to say SR was coming 4-6 months and had said that as recently as in the past week or two. IIRC, it also had that "estimate" in 2018.


I'm holding out that the MR (currently $37k with PUP) eventually gets price reduced to the $35k (without PUP), but might want to get that crow ready. :(


Better to get the crow ready than the horse that some have beaten here for years into powder:)

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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:39 am

Oils4AsphaultOnly wrote:I'm holding out that the MR (currently $37k with PUP) eventually gets price reduced to the $35k (without PUP), but might want to get that crow ready. :(

Huh?

MR w/PUP as a forced feature currently starts at $42,900 + $1,200 destination & doc fee. Also, since I do NOT buy black cars, the other colors are $1500 to $2500 more. I'd pick white, which is $2K more.

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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:46 pm

cwerdna wrote:
Oils4AsphaultOnly wrote:I'm holding out that the MR (currently $37k with PUP) eventually gets price reduced to the $35k (without PUP), but might want to get that crow ready. :(

Huh?

MR w/PUP as a forced feature currently starts at $42,900 + $1,200 destination & doc fee. Also, since I do NOT buy black cars, the other colors are $1500 to $2500 more. I'd pick white, which is $2K more.


my bad. You're right. $38k + $5k PUP.
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Tue Feb 19, 2019 6:18 pm

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Tesla Model 3 Range Test In Cold With Snow Tires: Video
https://insideevs.com/video-tesla-model-3-range-test-winter/
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