GRA wrote:...I see that the Model Y is going to have one as well, which would eliminate it for me, if everything on the touchscreen, the length, the price of the LR AWD and the slope of the rear hatch hadn't already done that.
Oh come now, Guy. No EV will EVER
have the right features to satisfy you! Doesn't seem to match your signature: "The 'best' is the enemy of 'good enough'" — you want perfection in every possible detail, as you define them, and nothing else will do. In the unlikely event that one came close, you would morph your requirements to eliminate it. If the Forester suits you better, that's fine. Others of us "make do" with EVs and have lots of fun with them; I think that you are missing out!
No, I want an EV that meets my major requirements: one that is "good enough" doesn't have to be perfect. At the moment, no EV meets them, and I am unwilling to spend tens of thousands of dollars on a vehicle that forces me to "make do," given how long I keep a car and that I expect my next car purchase to be my last, giving me a grand total of five in my lifetime. I expect by the time my next car reaches the end of its useful life, rather than buying another I will instead use intermodal MaaS AVs, allowing me to forsake car ownership (given that my driving skills will likely have started to deteriorate by that time due to age, that's a good thing for everyone). I have hopes that BEVs will meet my major requirements in a few years. If the Kia Niro EV had 300+ miles of range, could charge to 80% in 1/2 hour or less, and was AWD, it would probably (have to check that I can lie down stretched out in the back, one of my firm requirements for any car) be "good enough". FCEVs already meet most of my operational requirements (I could make the Nexo work, albeit it's a bit bigger than I'd like and lacks AWD), but still lack the fueling infrastructure and are too expensive.
dgpcolorado wrote:I'd rather not have a glass roof since I prefer the sound and thermal insulation of a conventional roof, as in my current car. But Tesla glass roofs have been out for years now and most people find that they work well and some really like them. If I got a newer car with one, it wouldn't be a big deal — I'd get used to it, it's a little thing.
Which is a matter of personal taste and need, and everyone has their own. Could I make a car with a glass roof work? Sure, but see above about making do. I'm very picky about the cars (and other durable equipment) I buy, because I know I'll be putting up with them for a long time. I am not someone who turns over equipment at a high rate just because there's something new out; the new thing has to be significantly better (meeting my personal idiosyncratic needs) than what I already have to get me to switch, and one of the 'good enoughs' for me is value for money over the long term. There's a wide range of ICEs that are "good enough" operationally now, but in a couple of years I expect the same to be true of BEVs and maybe FCEVs. I'm willing to wait, although it pains me to have to delay the out-of-state trips I've been putting off for years now a few more until I can do them in a ZEV. In the meantime, I do more local trips that I can do via mass transit, bike and/or feet, and keep my solo (ICE) driving in-state. I also gave up flying except for emergencies and bucket list items basically at the start of this century, and don't expect to do so again until jet biofuels are widely used.