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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Sun May 13, 2018 5:39 pm

LTLFTcomposite wrote:Mind you I'm not here predicting catastrophe, but just because Mr Edatoakrun is a bear doesn't mean he's wrong about everything.


I'm not expecting catastrophe as well, but T esla is still not past the M odel 3 bet the company event. Need to get production up and stable.
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Sun May 13, 2018 6:03 pm

Well I received an Email to configure my car. I really do not want the long range option. The email said to reply for help. I have tried two times and the email comes back rejected with a too full mailbox error. I give up, I am not spending 57K on a car that was announced as a 35K car.
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Sun May 13, 2018 6:19 pm

WetEV wrote:
LTLFTcomposite wrote:Mind you I'm not here predicting catastrophe....

I'm not expecting catastrophe as well...

While predictions and expectations RE TSLA may be interesting diversions, if you are considering either a providing TSLA with your money as an investment or a deposit, consider instead using TSLA's established performance as your guide.

No manufacturer prior to TSLA has ever lost so much money delivering so few vehicles, after missing so many production schedules.

But you now are predicting, expecting, or just hoping... that next time it'll be different?
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Sun May 13, 2018 7:11 pm

Of course it can be different, the situation is unlike any other I can think of, including the surrounding cast of players that haven't even come onto the stage yet.
Speaking of deposits though (sorry further OT if anyone cares) what happened to people who put down money for an Elio?
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Sun May 13, 2018 7:21 pm

I haven't even put in my $1K deposit, intentionally. As I've publicly stated in numerous places, possibly even here, I'm waiting to see how real customer cars hold up in terms of reliability once they've been in their hands for 6-12 months. Even that might be premature.

So far, the signs aren't looking good in that department, which isn't surprising to me at all.
GlennD wrote:I really do not want the long range option.
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I am not spending 57K on a car that was announced as a 35K car.

Ditto. I also wouldn't want the glass roof nor would I want to pay for AWD and performance options.

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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Mon May 14, 2018 6:24 am

evnow wrote:After waiting for several years - and coming close to buying one multiple times - finally got my Tesla yesterday.

I had to buy LR, instead of SR I had planned - mainly because the WA sales tax exemption, worth $3k, is expiring this month. Ofcourse it is not clear whether SR will be available by the time the full federal tax credit ends.

Tesla is delivering a lot of cars in WA because of sales tax exemption ending. There were 6 cars being delivered at the same time. We had a group orientation. It was all quite well planned - the cars were very good cosmetically. We were all out within an hour compared to over 3 hours it takes me to get a car with other dealers.


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Mon May 14, 2018 7:02 am

If anything I'd be more concerned for Tesla's propects if they did start producing stripper M3s. The current takeaway is that there's no shortage of buyers in the $45-60k slice of the adoption pyramid.
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Mon May 14, 2018 12:11 pm

LTLFTcomposite wrote:I for one certainly don't fault them for focussing on the higher margin heavily optioned models. This is a critical time for their financial survival when they need to prioritize bringing in as much money as the traffic will bear over the egalitarian dream of affordable EVs for all.


Have you and others forgotten the video posted by Reg, and believed by some, that indicated that Tesla really doesn't need to be profitable
short term or even long term? If that were true, why the delay in delivering the $35K M3? Many also indicated that Tesla is really profitable
now, so why the contradictions?
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Mon May 14, 2018 1:54 pm

I do remember that video. I also remember thinking that to attract the needed investment to sustain ongoing losses indefinitely they would need to present themselves as an ever growing upside opportunity. It's possible I suppose, but at some point you begin to question whether the trees can grow to the sky.
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Mon May 14, 2018 1:59 pm

lorenfb wrote:Many also indicated that Tesla is really profitable now, so why the contradictions?


T esla is spending more than they are receiving, so they are not profitable. Some parts of T esla are profitable, which is a different issue.
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