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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:45 pm

Valdemar wrote:Seat heaters go well with leather seats even in SoCal, not really needed for cloth IMO.

I agree they're not needed for cloth (which is what I've had in my last two cars), but a nice to have. Of course, I wear shorts year round, so YMMV.
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:19 pm

GRA wrote:And I really don't want a glass roof in either hot or cold temps.


While there may be other reasons to not want a glass roof (although frankly I can't think of any), temperature control in the Tesla is not one of them. On the hottest days of the year, you feel nothing from above, even though you can feel the heat pouring in through the side windows and windshield. You don't even notice that there's a glass roof (heat-wise). Now I don't live in Arizona, but here in North Carolina it still gets pretty hot and the glass roof was definitely not an issue.
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:46 pm

Anyone else here order a $35k Model 3? Take delivery yet?

We ordered the Standard Range $35k Model 3 within a few hours of being made available to order on 2/28/2019. The status continues to report as: "Estimated Delivery: 2-4 weeks from order placed date".

We're going with bare bones and waiting on delivery: black, no autopilot, manual adjustable seats, basic interior, basic sound system, no options/upgrades.
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:53 pm

iPlug wrote:Anyone else here order a $35k Model 3? Take delivery yet?

We ordered the Standard Range $35k Model 3 within a few hours of being made available to order on 2/28/2019. The status continues to report as: "Estimated Delivery: 2-4 weeks from order placed date".

We're going with bare bones and waiting on delivery: black, no autopilot, manual adjustable seats, basic interior, basic sound system, no options/upgrades.


Did you actually get it ordered for $35K or did Tesla add on a $1,200 Destination Fee also ?

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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:58 pm

leaf16 wrote:
iPlug wrote:Anyone else here order a $35k Model 3? Take delivery yet?

We ordered the Standard Range $35k Model 3 within a few hours of being made available to order on 2/28/2019. The status continues to report as: "Estimated Delivery: 2-4 weeks from order placed date".

We're going with bare bones and waiting on delivery: black, no autopilot, manual adjustable seats, basic interior, basic sound system, no options/upgrades.


Did you actually get it ordered for $35K or did Tesla add on a $1,200 Destination Fee also ?


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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:08 pm

leaf16 wrote:
iPlug wrote:Anyone else here order a $35k Model 3? Take delivery yet?

We ordered the Standard Range $35k Model 3 within a few hours of being made available to order on 2/28/2019. The status continues to report as: "Estimated Delivery: 2-4 weeks from order placed date".

We're going with bare bones and waiting on delivery: black, no autopilot, manual adjustable seats, basic interior, basic sound system, no options/upgrades.


Did you actually get it ordered for $35K or did Tesla add on a $1,200 Destination Fee also ?

$35k pre-destination/document fees.

Here is the pertinent cost breakdown for us:
$35,000 Vehicle Price (MSRP)
+ $1,125 Destination Fee
+ $75 Documentation Fee
+ $2,624.50 Sales Tax
+ $7 Tire Fee
+ $236 License Fee
+ $245 Registration/Transfer/Titling Fees
- $3,750 Federal Tax Credit
- $2,500 CA State Rebate
- $800 PG&E Utility Rebate
= $32,262.50 Net Cost


This will replace my 2012 Plug-in Prius. Next month, my wife will very likely trade up her leased 2016 30 kWh Leaf SV to a 2019 40 kWh Leaf (also will lease). We plan to keep the Model 3 for ~3 years then trade up to a Model Y or other hatchback around that time.
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:03 pm

lpickup wrote:
GRA wrote:And I really don't want a glass roof in either hot or cold temps.


While there may be other reasons to not want a glass roof (although frankly I can't think of any), temperature control in the Tesla is not one of them. On the hottest days of the year, you feel nothing from above, even though you can feel the heat pouring in through the side windows and windshield. You don't even notice that there's a glass roof (heat-wise). Now I don't live in Arizona, but here in North Carolina it still gets pretty hot and the glass roof was definitely not an issue.

That is definitely not the case for some owners, and I would include myself in that group if I were an owner. Here's one such post on TMC:
It is a very dark tint on the 3. Im not in AZ, but here in MD yesterday it was 44 Deg. F and the temp in the vehicle was 108 Deg. F. The car was parked in the sun, but if that is a preview of things to come, it could be a hot summer inside.

I also sleep in a car in the winter at trailheads, and the conductive and radiative heat loss through that roof at night in winter is something I don't need. There was an article posted on one of the commercial EV forums about the use of reflective shades on the roof and windows for sleeping in the car, but that supposes you spend a lot of time looking straight up while in the car to make the glass roof (and a shade for same) worth the cost and trouble. As I spend almost no time looking straight up while in a car, why would I want the additional expense and weight of an un-insulated glass roof and then need to buy a reflective cover to provide insulation for it?I'm already carrying a reflective cover for the front window and (depending on the weather) ones for the side and rear windows as well; I really don't want to deal with another one. I haven't bought cars with sun/moonroofs for much the same reason (although my primary concern there was long-term water tightness and reliability). I've owned a convertible and driven it top down in conditions suitable for that, and anything else is just an inadequate attempt to achieve the same thing.
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:20 pm

"That is definitely not the case for some owners, and I would include myself in that group if I were an owner"

Priceless and very Lorenfb like,.

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Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:33 pm

EVDRIVER wrote:"That is definitely not the case for some owners, and I would include myself in that group if I were an owner"

Priceless and very Lorenfb like,.

I know my sensitivity to heat compared to the mean, and when on road trips I'm often out all day exposed to direct sun - the last thing I want or need is to feel ANY radiative or conductive heat on my body when I'm in the car afterwards. I typically X-C ski dressed in nothing but shorts, socks, boots, gaiters, fingerless bike gloves and a ball cap if the temp is above 20 deg. F., because I get too hot otherwise, which I think you'll agree isn't typical for the average person. So, when numerous owners and people who've done reviews report sensible heat gain through the roof (and heat loss is obvious), why would you think I wouldn't?

I'm able to deal with cold far better than heat. My personal thermostat has two settings, off and max heat. I find when driving that I can handle up to about a steady 84 deg. F. OAT without use of A/C, although I will tolerate higher temps without using the A/C if I know it will only be for a brief period. As all current BEVs have range that is at best marginal for me, I would need to save energy by not using the HVAC system wherever possible. I also prefer not to spend money on options which I neither need or want. Are you different?
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:49 pm

GRA wrote:
EVDRIVER wrote:"That is definitely not the case for some owners, and I would include myself in that group if I were an owner"

Priceless and very Lorenfb like,.

I know my sensitivity to heat compared to the mean, and when on road trips I'm often out all day exposed to direct sun - the last thing I want or need is to feel ANY radiative or conductive heat on my body when I'm in the car afterwards. I typically X-C ski dressed in nothing but shorts, socks, boots, gaiters, fingerless bike gloves and a ball cap if the temp is above 20 deg. F., because I get too hot otherwise, which I think you'll agree isn't typical for the average person. So, when numerous owners and people who've done reviews report sensible heat gain through the roof (and heat loss is obvious), why would you think I wouldn't?

I'm able to deal with cold far better than heat. My personal thermostat has two settings, off and max heat. I find when driving that I can handle up to about a steady 84 deg. F. OAT without use of A/C, although I will tolerate higher temps without using the A/C if I know it will only be for a brief period. As all current BEVs have range that is at best marginal for me, I would need to save energy by not using the HVAC system wherever possible. I also prefer not to spend money on options which I neither need or want. Are you different?


That is because you live int he Bay Area. A screen shade on the car works and the ability to have some warmth in the cold is a bonus without using the heat. Not such an issue here and can be mitigated. I think the roof is more an asset.

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