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Re: Chevrolet Bolt - 60 kWh, 238 mi, < 7s 0-60

Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:44 am

DNAinaGoodWay wrote:After 5 years of 24 kWh Leafs a 60 kWh car is going to be a breeze. Just going to Boston and back on the Pike at 85 mph, without needing to charge, is going to be a luxury.
This is exactly what we found (albeit with a Tesla not a Bolt). Although I still don't do 85, but keep up with those doing 75.

I think those coming to higher capacity EVs aren't going to learn to be frugal with the battery, simply because they don't have to. I'm usually getting around 250Wh/mi (4mi/kWh) in my S whereas I've read that most people are happy getting 400Wh/mi, and it's because they, well, just drive the car without worrying about range. :lol:
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Re: Chevrolet Bolt - 60 kWh, 238 mi, < 7s 0-60

Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:20 pm

jlv wrote:I think those coming to higher capacity EVs aren't going to learn to be frugal with the battery, simply because they don't have to. I'm usually getting around 250Wh/mi (4mi/kWh) in my S whereas I've read that most people are happy getting 400Wh/mi, and it's because they, well, just drive the car without worrying about range. :lol:


I've gradually learned this with my own 24kWh EV. I simply drive the car without worrying about range. Typically I'm averaging about 315Wh/mi in my Leaf (3.2 miles/kWh), and I'm perfectly happy with that. My degraded battery has about 17kWh usable in it, so I can go about 50-55 miles on a charge. Perfect. If I go a little farther than 50 miles, I slow down a little. If I go much farther, I just take the PHEV (for now).
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Re: Chevrolet Bolt - 60 kWh, 238 mi, < 7s 0-60

Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:42 pm

Although I consider such records to have almost zero relevance to regular driving, for those who value such things, via IEVS:
Opel Ampera-E (Chevy Bolt EV) Goes 466 Miles On Single Charge
http://insideevs.com/opel-ampera-e-goes-466-miles-single-charge/

. . . However, a TV crew from Auto Mobil, a show on the German VOX channel, managed to travel the impressive distance of 466 miles (750 km) without recharging the batteries of the EV. It goes without even saying they had to drive considerably slower than normal, between 25 miles per hour (40 kilometers per hour) and 31 mph (50 kph), making full use of the brake energy regeneration. We are pretty sure they also never used the climate or audio systems, too. . . .

It took them no less than 25 hours and 30 minutes to cross Germany mostly through country roads, travelling for exactly 469 miles (754.9 km) before running out of power.
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Re: Chevrolet Bolt - 60 kWh, 238 mi, < 7s 0-60

Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:43 am

We replaced our '15 Leaf S with a '17 Bolt EV Premier, and we couldn't be happier. We fit much better, and having so much range in an EV is a revelation. Even in "hilltop reserve" mode, we get about 290 miles range indicated.

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Re: Chevrolet Bolt - 60 kWh, 238 mi, < 7s 0-60

Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:26 pm

NeilBlanchard wrote:We replaced our '15 Leaf S with a '17 Bolt EV Premier, and we couldn't be happier. We fit much better, and having so much range in an EV is a revelation. Even in "hilltop reserve" mode, we get about 290 miles range indicated.

Congrats! Don't be a stranger but... try not to brag too much :D
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Re: Chevrolet Bolt - 60 kWh, 238 mi, < 7s 0-60

Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:18 am

jhm614 wrote:
NeilBlanchard wrote:We replaced our '15 Leaf S with a '17 Bolt EV Premier, and we couldn't be happier. We fit much better, and having so much range in an EV is a revelation. Even in "hilltop reserve" mode, we get about 290 miles range indicated.

Congrats! Don't be a stranger but... try not to brag too much :D


Thanks!

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Re: Chevrolet Bolt - 60 kWh, 238 mi, < 7s 0-60

Fri Sep 29, 2017 11:40 pm

Me too. Leased a LT with all 3 packages last night and drove it on the highway like any gas car. Stopped for dinner and in 2 EVgo sessions sucked up 41.2 kWh, $22.30, roughly equivalent to a 20 mpg car at 4 m/kWh at local gas prices, but I was only doing around 3 m/kWh I think, not driving conservatively at all.

Car was fresh off the train and the seats seem fine to us. Maybe GM is making adjustments.

Dealer negotiations were as fun as always, but this could be my last time playing. Tesla should be more accessible in 2020, and who knows what else.

Loved my Leafs, but happy to move on. Bolt is pretty fun to drive. Now I just have to learn all these new features and settings. Never used onstar before.
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Re: Chevrolet Bolt - 60 kWh, 238 mi, < 7s 0-60

Sat Sep 30, 2017 5:18 am

DNAinaGoodWay wrote:Me too. Leased a LT with all 3 packages last night and drove it on the highway like any gas car. Stopped for dinner and in 2 EVgo sessions sucked up 40.2 kWh, $22.30, roughly equivalent to a 20 mpg car at 4 m/kWh at local gas prices, but I was only doing around 3 m/kWh I think, not driving conservatively at all.

Car was fresh off the train and the seats seem fine to us. Maybe GM is making adjustments.

Dealer negotiations were as fun as always, but this could be my last time playing. Tesla should be more accessible in 2020, and who knows what else.

Loved my Leafs, but happy to move on. Bolt is pretty fun to drive. Now I just have to learn all these new features and settings. Never used onstar before.


Good deal. If you have several EVGO stations in your area, you should start monitoring them for speed since they are NOT all created equally. We have higher power stations that started appearing 6 months ago as upgrades to existing station including at least one case where only one of the two fast chargers were upgraded. On a time based charged, the difference is significant. Yesterday it was 52.4 KW verses using the station 2 feet away at 40 KW
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Re: Chevrolet Bolt - 60 kWh, 238 mi, < 7s 0-60

Sat Sep 30, 2017 6:45 am

I sure hope so. IIRR, Bolt can QC up to 80 kW. We went to a mall with a recently installed replacement unit but it was down. Luckily the other older one was up and open, but had to call to start as I had left my EVgo cards in my other EV.

Car only had 80 miles on it when we picked it up. Sale happened too fast for proper prep time. Salesman apologized but told him 80 miles was full for me.

GOM seems accurate enough, mall was 50 miles and it read 28 miles when we got there at ICE highway speeds. Haven't figured out if Bolt shows % but QC showed 12% I think.

Is there a BoltSpy yet?

Did two 31 minute sessions, 22.617 and 18.589 kWhs and GOM showed 180 miles or so. Sorry, I was pretty tired by then. Groggy now, need coffee, I'll let you do the math. Thanks.
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Re: Chevrolet Bolt - 60 kWh, 238 mi, < 7s 0-60

Sat Sep 30, 2017 6:58 am

DNAinaGoodWay wrote:I sure hope so. IIRR, Bolt can QC up to 80 kW. We went to a mall with a recently installed replacement unit but it was down. Luckily the other older one was up and open, but had to call to start as I had left my EVgo cards in my other EV.

Car only had 80 miles on it when we picked it up. Sale happened too fast for proper prep time. Salesman apologized but told him 80 miles was full for me.

GOM seems accurate enough, mall was 50 miles and it read 28 miles when we got there at ICE highway speeds. Haven't figured out if Bolt shows % but QC showed 12% I think.

Is there a BoltSpy yet?

Did two 31 minute sessions, 22.617 and 18.589 kWhs and GOM showed 180 miles or so. Sorry, I was pretty tired by then. Groggy now, need coffee, I'll let you do the math. Thanks.


sounds like you hit an upgraded station since you can't hit 20+ kwh on the other ones in 30 mins. What was SOC at end of 2nd session? cause it sounds like it launched at 100 amps (40 KW)
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