LeftieBiker wrote: KeiJidosha wrote: DanCar wrote:
GM said much of the design was done in Korea. So it looks like it was designed for Korean average posteriors.
"Bolt EV’s front seats were designed in house by GM." Bolt EV seat design cuts weight, delights taller passengers - http://articles.sae.org/14913/
The leader of the design team for the Bolt is a Stringbean. He is of average height but is very
thin. I've seen a photo of him posing in front of a Bolt; he makes the car look like an SUV.
I'm certainly more on the slim side (swimmer's body) than the opposite, but I'm 6' tall and weigh 175-180 depending on the season (about 10-15 lb. more than the years when I was at peak condition), but I agree Josh Tavel would look anemic next to me or most people - I think this is the photo you mean: https://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/2016/12/10/payne-qauto-chevy-bolt-evs-chief-speed-freak/95259830/
Anyway, this puts me at about the 85th percentile on height and the 50th percentile on weight for white American males. Part of the problem is that the majority of Americans (70.7% of those age 20 and over) qualify as overweight or obese (37.9%), and unlike many countries we also have a mix of people of every possible ethnicity/body type, so everyone who's wider and/or heavier may have an issue even ignoring seat construction variations or lack of anorexia. I don't think you'd find too many Samoans being happy in a Bolt
What GM should have done is provide a 95th percentile seat that's wider with less aggressive bolsters, and then a sport seat shaped more like the current one - the car certainly has the performance to benefit from same, and its bolsters felt less aggressive than the ones in my Forester, let alone those in higher performance cars I've owned or driven.
OT: I suspect Subaru can get away with this because their demographic tends to be more physically active than the average American, and there may also be some self-selection of body types, but I'm unaware if they've gotten lots of complaints - the only bitches I have with them are limited leg room length/seat travel (GM got that
right in the Bolt), and they still make the seat bottoms too short (limited thigh support) for those of us of European ancestry, although as the Japanese have gotten taller it's become less of an issue, and cruise control makes it bearable on long trips.
I think the biggest mismatch I ever experienced between seat design and intended car usage was the Recaro bucket seats in the pre-production Think City urban BEV I drove for a week. For a car intended to be used for lots of short trips that would require frequent entry and exit but not aggressive driving (imagine a lower-performance Smart), entering the driver's seat required squirming your way in over the side and around the back bolsters while fitting your thighs under the bottom of the steering wheel. The production car wouldn't have used such expensive seats (around $1,000/ea. retail at the time), which were also so ill-suited for the car's intended usage.