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Fri Jan 09, 2015 11:40 pm

Concept to show at Detroit Auto Show next week. On track for 2017 for under $35,000.

The car is larger than the compact Volt and has a hatchback body style, the source said. GM has targeted a price between $30,000 and $35,000, which would put the net price under $30,000 after a federal tax credit, the person said.

http://www.autonews.com/article/20150110/OEM05/150109863

MOD NOTE: Simplify title to make this the official Bolt thread.
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Re: WSJ, AutoNews: GM Shows 200 Mile Chevy Bolt Concept

Sat Jan 10, 2015 1:43 am

Still just talk. They appear scared to let Tesla get too far out in front. Now they are matching Tesla by announcing a product with pricing before they ever built one to know what it will really cost. I hope both companies succeed, but right now I don't see either one capable of delivering in two years (2017).
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Re: WSJ, AutoNews: GM Shows 200 Mile Chevy Bolt Concept

Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:52 am

If it really is on track for a 2017 model, that would mean release in just over a year, so they have already built one and should have a decent idea of the cost. But even if they do go over, anything under 40 would be amazing for a larger, 200-mile-epa hatchback.

I'm gonna give GM the benefit of the doubt here. They delivered the Volt on time, and that is far more complex than a pure EV.

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Re: WSJ, AutoNews: GM Shows 200 Mile Chevy Bolt Concept

Sat Jan 10, 2015 8:09 am

pkulak wrote:... and that is far more complex than a pure EV.
The main complexity is for LG to deliver at stated price, safety, quantity and density parameters

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Re: WSJ, AutoNews: GM Shows 200 Mile Chevy Bolt Concept

Sat Jan 10, 2015 8:22 am

I read it as an introduction by the end of 2017, so a MY2018. Sounds like they are pulling the same mistake as the Volt intro by overhyping early, leaving no room to actually be excited by time the assembly line finally fires up. Same thing they are doing with the contrived strip tease intro crap with the Volt 2.0.
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Re: WSJ, AutoNews: GM Shows 200 Mile Chevy Bolt Concept

Sat Jan 10, 2015 9:08 am

DanCar wrote:
pkulak wrote:... and that is far more complex than a pure EV.
The main complexity is for LG to deliver at stated price, safety, quantity and density parameters

GM must be testing the battery already if the car is only due out in a couple years. GM is serious about their battery testing.

BTW - anyone object if I make this the official GM Bolt thread?
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Re: WSJ, AutoNews: GM Shows 200 Mile Chevy Bolt Concept

Sat Jan 10, 2015 9:28 am

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a : a shaft or missile designed to be shot from a crossbow or catapult; especially : a short stout usually blunt-headed arrow
b : a lightning stroke; also : thunderbolt

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a : a wood or metal bar or rod used to fasten a door
b : the part of a lock that is shot or withdrawn by the key

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: a roll of cloth or wallpaper of specified length

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: a metal rod or pin for fastening objects together that usually has a head at one end and a screw thread at the other and is secured by a nut

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a : a block of timber to be sawed or cut
b : a short round section of a log

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: a metal cylinder that drives the cartridge into the chamber of a firearm, locks the breech, and usually contains the firing pin and extractor

GMs been confused for decades, maybe they don't know which definition makes this word sound good for the name of a car?

seems like the common them is a round cylinder.
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Re: WSJ, AutoNews: GM Shows 200 Mile Chevy Bolt Concept

Sat Jan 10, 2015 9:35 am

Honestly, now I'm a Volt owner (first time with GM after having nothing but Fords as my daily drivers for years) I'd personally rather have a Chevy than a Tesla, all else being equal. But that's just me.
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Re: WSJ, AutoNews: GM Shows 200 Mile Chevy Bolt Concept

Sat Jan 10, 2015 10:00 am

If it's out end of 2017, then it's not even worth discussing at this point. That is a lifetime away in EV terms. Leaf 2.0 will be out by then, along with, most likely, the model III and probably at least a few more long-range EVs from other manufacturers (Kia or Hyundia, I'm thinking).

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Re: WSJ, AutoNews: GM Shows 200 Mile Chevy Bolt Concept

Sat Jan 10, 2015 10:20 am

Moof wrote:I read it as an introduction by the end of 2017, so a MY2018. Sounds like they are pulling the same mistake as the Volt intro by overhyping early, leaving no room to actually be excited by time the assembly line finally fires up. Same thing they are doing with the contrived strip tease intro crap with the Volt 2.0.


According to the Detroit News, which generally has good GM sources:

According to analysts and some GM employee profiles, the Chevrolet Bolt, known as the "BEV2" internally, is due out by the 2017 model year.
In July, Reuters reported that South Korean battery firm LG Chem planned to supply a major automaker in 2016 with lithium-ion batteries for a new electric car getting 200 miles of range or more.


http://www.detroitnews.com/story/busine ... /21535887/

Also:

Here's an update just published by GreenCarReports:

A source who saw the GM display being set up at the Detroit Auto Show yesterday told Green Car Reports that the centerpiece of the display was "one car in a dramatic reveal position (in a round shroud that gets lifted up) that didn't fit with anything currently in the lineup."

This car, the source said, was "shaped like a BMW i3"--which is to say tall and blunt-tailed. That would seem to confirm the suggestion that the Bolt is a crossover, or at least has a mini-SUV shape.

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