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Re: Chevrolet Bolt - 60 kWh, 238 mi, < 7s 0-60

Sun Jan 08, 2017 7:14 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:The "motor noise" is probably the VSP. I haven't seen any other comments about it at the Bolt forum..

VSP (at least in the Leaf) turns off around 17 MPH, so if speed was higher for the test drive this is unlikely to be the cause.
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Re: Chevrolet Bolt - 60 kWh, 238 mi, < 7s 0-60

Sun Jan 08, 2017 7:44 pm

Well then it has speed sensitive VSP.

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Re: Chevrolet Bolt - 60 kWh, 238 mi, < 7s 0-60

Sun Jan 08, 2017 8:31 pm

Lessees are posting current quotes at the Bolt forum.

Don't know if you can do much better than this on a fully loaded Bolt, or not.

Bolt Lease Advice

Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:26 pm

I've ordered a fully loaded Chevy Bolt Premiere...

MSRP on this configuration is $43510. I don't believe that, currently, many dealers are willing to go below MSRP on the 2017 Bolt...

Here are what I think are the relevant numbers...

MSRP $43510
Selling Price $43510 (Discount $0)
Gross Cap Cost $44185 (MSRP + Doc + Acquisition Fee)
$2500 CCR from GM
$1073.89 of GM CCR applied Upfront (1 month advance payment + License Fee + ?)
$1426.11 of GM CCR applied as Cap Reduction
Net Cap Cost $42758.89
$0 Down from Customer
36 months
12k miles
59% residual
MF .000721
Monthly Payment (pre tax) $524.01
Monthly Payment (incl tax) $564.62

http://www.mychevybolt.com/forum/viewto ... cafe2b178b
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Re: Chevrolet Bolt - 60 kWh, 238 mi, < 7s 0-60

Sun Jan 08, 2017 8:38 pm

LTLFTcomposite wrote:It looks great with the back seat folded, nearly flat floor.

I'm not a clothes horse so it would work for me, but you guys with your matching 5pc Louis Vuitton sets could be unhappy :lol:



I'm not sure if I'm going to get dinged for this but lets say this board is okay with catering to a multilingual crowd. Here is a video by Saul Lopez. Saul is a known Electric vehicle enthusiast who owns a Leaf and a Tesla S. He does literally dozens of videos on both the Tesla S and the Leaf as well as the occasional other EV as well as the industry in general. He is a huge resource for those of us who speak spanish and his videos and council helped us in our quest to purchase a second EV, our new 2016 Leaf SV. Anyway, if you want to see a neat video on getting various size suitcases in the trunk of a leaf this is useful for those who are trying to decide if it will work for them. Just turn the volume off. He currently lives in Norway so if it looks nothing like Spain there thats why. He is from Madrid and his dialect reflects that so for those who do speak some spanish it may sound a little different than what you are used to. We are used to it from our trips to Madrid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iT3RFNralM

Here is another recent video where he talks about the range difference he gets in Norway and in Madrid. As he points out, in Madrid suburbia, mixed highway city driving, 200 KM in a 30 KW leaf is actually quite easy. Hope somebody finds this helpful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFelt5xhvYs
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Re: Chevrolet Bolt - 60 kWh, 238 mi, < 7s 0-60

Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:10 am

edatoakrun wrote:Lessees are posting current quotes at the Bolt forum.

Don't know if you can do much better than this on a fully loaded Bolt, or not.

Bolt Lease Advice

Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:26 pm

I've ordered a fully loaded Chevy Bolt Premiere...

MSRP on this configuration is $43510. I don't believe that, currently, many dealers are willing to go below MSRP on the 2017 Bolt...

Here are what I think are the relevant numbers...

MSRP $43510
Selling Price $43510 (Discount $0)
Gross Cap Cost $44185 (MSRP + Doc + Acquisition Fee)
$2500 CCR from GM
$1073.89 of GM CCR applied Upfront (1 month advance payment + License Fee + ?)
$1426.11 of GM CCR applied as Cap Reduction
Net Cap Cost $42758.89
$0 Down from Customer
36 months
12k miles
59% residual
MF .000721
Monthly Payment (pre tax) $524.01
Monthly Payment (incl tax) $564.62

http://www.mychevybolt.com/forum/viewto ... cafe2b178b


Are those CCRs coming from the fed tax credit? $564/mo - I'll pass.
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Re: Chevrolet Bolt - 60 kWh, 238 mi, < 7s 0-60

Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:48 am

You can lease an LT with no options (including the nicer colors) for $2500 down and about $305 a month, plus tax. Sound any better? There are also a couple more reviews of the seats, and it's becoming clear that GM wanted to limit the Bolt's appeal to small, fit people with rock hard butt muscles. A preference for pain while driving will also be a plus.
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Re: Chevrolet Bolt - 60 kWh, 238 mi, < 7s 0-60

Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:32 am

LeftieBiker wrote:You can lease an LT with no options (including the nicer colors) for $2500 down and about $305 a month, plus tax. Sound any better? There are also a couple more reviews of the seats, and it's becoming clear that GM wanted to limit the Bolt's appeal to small, fit people with rock hard butt muscles. A preference for pain while driving will also be a plus.



Once all the pre-orders and must have buyers are done we may see good deals. This car is way over priced IMO.

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Re: Chevrolet Bolt - 60 kWh, 238 mi, < 7s 0-60

Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:39 am

What do you guys think of the Bolt winning the North American Car of the Year award?

http://insideevs.com/chevrolet-bolt-cap ... ear-award/

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Re: Chevrolet Bolt - 60 kWh, 238 mi, < 7s 0-60

Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:20 am

I kinda knew the boly would come In at least 10 grand more than the leaf. We decided on the leaf over the bolt because.

1. Not proven yet. Get the bugs out fur a couple years. Leaf is pretty reliable.
2. Didn't actually like what saw.
3. Price. Wow. Extra range is useless to us so not worth any extra money.
4. It's a Chevy so.....
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Re: Chevrolet Bolt - 60 kWh, 238 mi, < 7s 0-60

Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:18 pm

webeleafowners wrote:I kinda knew the boly would come In at least 10 grand more than the leaf. We decided on the leaf over the bolt because.

1. Not proven yet. Get the bugs out fur a couple years. Leaf is pretty reliable.
2. Didn't actually like what saw.
3. Price. Wow. Extra range is useless to us so not worth any extra money.
4. It's a Chevy so.....


Kinda true 1-4. To be honest 2011 2012 Leafs also were not good enough.
On the other hand 30kWh version that costs almost as much as 2011 models, looks almost identical, but much much better.
Mostly inside. Heat pump, better battery. Better interior options.

As a car that is 5 years younger than Leaf, Bolt is not good enough. It would be in 2014.

Also CCS should be much less available for now.
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