arnis wrote:webeleafowners wrote:I kinda knew the boly would come In at least 10 grand more than the leaf. We decided on the leaf over the bolt because.
1. Not proven yet. Get the bugs out fur a couple years. Leaf is pretty reliable.
2. Didn't actually like what saw.
3. Price. Wow. Extra range is useless to us so not worth any extra money.
4. It's a Chevy so.....
Kinda true 1-4. To be honest 2011 2012 Leafs also were not good enough.
On the other hand 30kWh version that costs almost as much as 2011 models, looks almost identical, but much much better.
Mostly inside. Heat pump, better battery. Better interior options.
As a car that is 5 years younger than Leaf, Bolt is not good enough. It would be in 2014.
Also CCS should be much less available for now.
Other than friends who have a 2012 we don't really know how much the leaf has changed between 2012 and our 2016. We certainly like the increased range of ours over theirs as it gives us about a 40 percent leeway over the range we need compared to what we have. It gives us some room for degradation over the next 7 to 10 years we will have the car. Having said that, maybe a result of the climate we live in in Canada, our friends have seen very little degradation in their 2012. They still have 12 bars and it still serves their needs although he says he sees a little less range at the end of the day in the winter than he used to. They use it as a commuter and put on about 11,000 KM per year. It has been to the dealer twice in that time. He pretty much treats it like an appliance.
I would be interested in seeing a list of improvements from the original 2011 model year to our 2016 SV 30.
We are currently in the US for a couple more months so we had a chance to see the bolt a couple times. I still haven't seen one with fast charge and the sales guy didn't know what I as talking about so couldn't say how much they would cost extra. The closest dealer sold 3 in the same day but I think they were probably pre-paid. He mentioned the only complaint the one customer had was highway noise at freeway speed. Anybody hear this or is it just because it is more obvious as there is no engine noise. We notice this on our smart ED. He said their sticker price was 37ish without fast charge.