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Re: Chevrolet Bolt - 60 kWh, 238 mi, < 7s 0-60

Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:49 am

The leather-covered seats look and feel more like ventilated pleather. I'd definitely get seat covers, and even if the driver's seat feels ok when new, I'd also perform the fix (thought up by me and undoubtedly others) that consists of placing medium-density plastic foam underneath the bottom of the driver's seat cushion. That both softens and slightly raises the too-hard seat cushion, which can otherwise put your thigh or butt in contact with the plastic side rails. If the seat pokes you in the left thigh, that is likely a too-long bolt used to fasten the seat together. It needs to be shortened or replaced. Chevy Bolt: the car you finish building yourself! Now it's off to bed for me.
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Re: Chevrolet Bolt - 60 kWh, 238 mi, < 7s 0-60

Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:31 am

seat covers might be a good idea. I know one Bolter who did that adding padding in the process. Haven't talked to him lately so not sure how it all worked out but its like personal comfort which means you only need to try enough things until you get something you can live with. There are MILLIONS of options out there.

Some dealers used to be open to extended test drives overnight or a weekend. Doesn't hurt to ask. As far as charging? Even my 40 kwh LEAF allows me to charge infrequently without exceeding 80% SOC most of the time. You should be fine at least during work week with the extra range.
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Re: Chevrolet Bolt - 60 kWh, 238 mi, < 7s 0-60

Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:25 am

To continue discussion from another thread...
cwerdna wrote:If I jump ship to Bolt, it'll be before April 1st, when GM's tax credit should be going to 1/2. Could happen even by end of this month. I'd be selling my Leaf and my Prius.

I just realized that https://www.chevrolet.com/electric/bolt-ev-electric-car lists the full and reduced tax credit dates, which confirms what IEVs said.

I've scheduled a 1 day Turo rental of a Bolt for Tuesday. Unfortunately, there are only two in my area and both are '17.
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Re: Chevrolet Bolt - 60 kWh, 238 mi, < 7s 0-60

Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:28 am

Unfortunately, there are only two in my area and both are '17.


Don't get used to the storage pockets on the seat backs and the newer Bolts should be, if a surprise at all after that, a pleasant one.
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Re: Chevrolet Bolt - 60 kWh, 238 mi, < 7s 0-60

Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:33 am

cwerdna wrote:I've scheduled a 1 day Turo rental of a Bolt for Tuesday. Unfortunately, there are only two in my area and both are '17.

Ok. Turo rental's in my garage and needs to be returned tomorrow afternoon.

I dislike the fact there's no % SoC display, just a GOM along w/min and max values + 20 fuel bars. Displays overall are pretty nice. Apple CarPlay combined w/the large (10.2 inch) LCD, OMG! Apple Maps and/or Google Maps (satellite view works on it) on it are pretty awesome compared to the primitive nav system on my Leaf. (Yes, '18+ Leaf can have CarPlay but the screen's smaller.) The ergonomics of the controls (knobs and buttons) in the center are not bad. Bose stereo is decent, maybe a bit worse than in my Leaf.

The '17 front seats are terrible. Although I'm of ok width and they seem contoured well enough, they're just really hard and something is off about them. I didn't find the ride to be particularly bad. Seemed not far off from Leaf which isn't as smooth as my 02 Maxima was (which subpar handling and brakes).

Intellibeam is interesting but has some quirks. There seems to be less trunk space than my '13. Drivetrain seems noisier than my '13 Leaf. Acceleration is GREAT! Besides the interior quality being poor (cheap hard plastics), car feels less refined than my Leaf. The strip of blue lighting at night is kinda nice. I liked L mode (basically like e-Pedal on '18+ Leaf). You can come to stop w/o pressing any pedals. There's no forward creep in L.

GM definitely does quite a bit of stuff differently than Nissan from a controls and interior POV. There seems to be no way to fully close any vents or adjust their output. Nissans and Toyota usually have that. People who hate the piece of hard plastic on the '18+ Leafs between the shifter and center stack would love the Bolt. It doesn't have a piece like that.

I'm worried about all the extra cycles the car seems to put on the HID headlights. I didn't see a way of disabling the auto-headlight behavior and how much it likes turning on the headlights by itself. Will need to dig into that if I buy.

This is the first car I've driven (AFAIK) where it lets you set a speed limit (you set the speed) warning chime speed.

Man... if only Nissan or Toyota had a refined EV with 238 mile EPA range back in Dec 2016 w/battery thermal management, cells that didn't degrade rapidly, reliability, CarPlay and Android Auto w/as big a screen and interior quality comparable to '18 Leaf...

If I get one... @Turbo3 needs to get a Bolt so that he can write Bolt Spy. :mrgreen:

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Re: Chevrolet Bolt - 60 kWh, 238 mi, < 7s 0-60

Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:14 am

The Bolt app does have a SOC display, as I mentioned earlier, so you have that available. Maybe what you need more is a "Bolt DD." Sign up at the Bolt forum here (the site should do it for you when you click on the Bolt icon or name, then wait a few seconds) and you'll be able to read all about improving the seats. At least you are lucky enough to not be simply too large for them. The ride may improve as the suspension wears in and if the tires get a bit lower in pressure - I didn't stick around the forum long enough to see anything about ride quality after a year or so. Did your car have the display freeze up? That was an issue, since many of the controls are virtual instead of physical. Later firmware is supposed to have helped that.
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Re: Chevrolet Bolt - 60 kWh, 238 mi, < 7s 0-60

Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:00 am

LeftieBiker wrote:Did your car have the display freeze up? That was an issue, since many of the controls are virtual instead of physical. Later firmware is supposed to have helped that.

No. Never froze up but it's not like I've had the car for long.

From talking to other Bolt drivers telling me about the buggy software on their cars, it didn't sound like the locking up happened that often. The guy who told me about his lockups (both LCDs freeze, so speedometer's frozen too) didn't know the shortcut to reboot (holding down FF + home). I sent that his way.

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Re: Chevrolet Bolt - 60 kWh, 238 mi, < 7s 0-60

Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:04 am

The updates were applied to all of them, so you may not see a freeze up during the rental period, and maybe not for a long time if you buy one.
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Re: Chevrolet Bolt - 60 kWh, 238 mi, < 7s 0-60

Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:58 am

LeftieBiker wrote:The Bolt app does have a SOC display


I was going to bring this up too. The app is available through CarPlay, so you can get to it through the main screen while driving. Although you do have to connect your app to the car, and I don't know how easy this is for a rental. The nice thing about the app is that it continues to show % SoC when the battery is very low. When the car gets below 10%, the dash display just starts flashing, just like my 2012 Leaf used to do. Right when you need SoC the most, it is taken away from you. The app gives it back.

cwerdna wrote:I'm worried about all the extra cycles the car seems to put on the HID headlights. I didn't see a way of disabling the auto-headlight behavior and how much it likes turning on the headlights by itself. Will need to dig into that if I buy.


You can. There is a button on the headlight stalk to turn the intellibeam feature on/off. If you owned the car, a brief search of the owner's manual would tell you where it is.
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Re: Chevrolet Bolt - 60 kWh, 238 mi, < 7s 0-60

Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:35 pm

IEVS:
Chevy Bolt Winter Fast Charging: Cold Versus Warm Battery: Video
https://insideevs.com/chevy-bolt-winter-fast-charging-video/

. . . In the case of Ste’s Chevrolet Bolt EV, the deeply discharged and cold battery was able to accept less than 15 kW from a 50 kW EVgo charger, which triples the time and expense (if charging fee is by minutes).

The charging hardly exceed 15 kW after 10 minutes, and then slowly increased to 20 kW after 25 minutes. The last 15-20 minutes brought charging to over 30 kW as the battery has warmed to levels that permit a faster charge rate.

After some 45 minutes of charging, only 17.1 kWh was dispensed. . . .

In the second test (see video below), when the battery was warmed up after driving, 17.4 kWh was dispensed in just 23 minutes, which is twice as fast and could be half as cheap. . . .
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