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Re: TSLA corporate outlook

Thu Mar 09, 2017 12:20 pm

LTLFTcomposite wrote:Interesting story, lightly seasoned with a grain of salt

“Let them go to Tesla, they will be back in short order,” said an industry source with deep knowledge of Toyota and its customers.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/bertelschm ... 200eb61680


Lol. I left Toyota 6 years ago and I have yet to see a reason to go back;)

That said, I agree completely that it will be a big challenge for Tesla to build a much more reliable car with reasonable repair times.

However, Toyota's cavalier attitude about loosing 180,000 customers seems a bit short sighted.
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Re: TSLA corporate outlook

Thu Mar 09, 2017 12:37 pm

Zythryn wrote:Lol. I left Toyota 6 years ago and I have yet to see a reason to go back;)

That said, I agree completely that it will be a big challenge for Tesla to build a much more reliable car with reasonable repair times.

However, Toyota's cavalier attitude about loosing 180,000 customers seems a bit short sighted.

No doubt. We used to have Toyotas but they went downhill and didn't seem to care; there are better choices now IMO. Remains to be seen whether their massive share of the market can shield them from their apathetic view of the world. Funny how many people either don't know (because they were too young) or just don't remember that 10 years ago Nokia was the #1 cell phone to have. Disruption is a mofo, and you're only as great as your latest hit. I wonder if 10 years ago Nokia had a bunch of MBAs running around showing powerpoints about how their customers don't think of other brands or other nonsense... as though none of that could ever change.
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Re: TSLA corporate outlook

Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:20 pm

Put here because no other Tesla topic seemed a better fit. Via IEVS, a Tesla fan-produced ad which I happen to like: http://insideevs.com/fan-made-tesla-commercial-reevaluate-life-video/

Course, I also happen to agree with the comment by IEVS poster 'realistic', in reply to 'Leptoquark'.
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Re: TSLA corporate outlook

Wed Mar 15, 2017 5:57 am

Was this really the motivation behind yesterday's move up as the article suggests?

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/heres-why ... 09653.html

If so, it speaks to the popularity of that segment. I've always thought GM's major screwup with the Volt was not making it a compact crossover, if they had they probably wouldn't have been able to build them fast enough. While 400k Model 3 reservation holders is nothing to sneeze at, Tesla may be well aware they need to reach out beyond small sedans in the "affordable" segment where margins are thinnest once the pool of fanbois is depleted.
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Re: TSLA corporate outlook

Wed Mar 15, 2017 7:08 am

and then they did not even post the picture of the car.

NOT official Tesla, but from an enthusiast site:

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Re: TSLA corporate outlook

Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:22 am

The mockup kind of looks like a Porche Macan to me.

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I think the Model Y will very easily outsell the Model 3 in the US. World wide? I don't know. But this isn't new information at all. Elon Musk has specifically mentioned a Model 3 - based - crossover called the Model Y. They even went far as to trademark the name.

https://trademarks.justia.com/860/52/model-86052033.html
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Re: TSLA corporate outlook

Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:03 pm

palmermd wrote:and then they did not even post the picture of the car.

NOT official Tesla, but from an enthusiast site:

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Tesla better come up with a design better than a dwarf-model-X-with-plastic-accents, to compete with the other BSUVs that will beat it to the market:

Jaguar I-Pace Driven In London Is A Sign Of Things To Come [95 Images]

After it marked its presence at two auto shows on as many continents, the Jaguar I-Pace has been taken to the streets for the first time.

Proving that it's not only a show car, but also a fully functioning vehicle, it was driven around London, UK, by the brand's design team, and to highlight the event, it was also subjected to a photo shoot.

“Driving the concept on the streets is really important for the design team. It’s very special to put the car outside and in the real-world. You can see the true value of the I-Pace’s dramatic silhouette and powerful proportions when you see it on the road, against other cars. The I-Pace Concept represents the next generation of battery electric vehicle design. For me, the future of motoring has arrived”, said Jaguar's Director of Design, Ian Callum...

http://www.carscoops.com/2017/03/jaguar ... -sign.html

Even in red (not my choice) it looks a generation ahead of the Y concept above.
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Re: TSLA corporate outlook

Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:32 pm

edatoakrun wrote:http://www.carscoops.com/2017/03/jaguar ... -sign.html

Even in red (not my choice) it looks a generation ahead of the Y concept above.


Wow. I'll take the rendered Model Y over that any day.
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Re: TSLA corporate outlook

Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:05 pm

GetOffYourGas wrote:
edatoakrun wrote:http://www.carscoops.com/2017/03/jaguar ... -sign.html

Even in red (not my choice) it looks a generation ahead of the Y concept above.


Wow. I'll take the rendered Model Y over that any day.

Well, if Tesla ever builds the Y, in three or four years, you may have the chance.
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Re: TSLA corporate outlook

Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:10 pm

edatoakrun wrote:
GetOffYourGas wrote:
edatoakrun wrote:http://www.carscoops.com/2017/03/jaguar ... -sign.html

Even in red (not my choice) it looks a generation ahead of the Y concept above.


Wow. I'll take the rendered Model Y over that any day.

Well, if Tesla ever builds the Y, in three or four years, you may have the chance.


Yup. Although, I did say "over the Jaguar". Honestly, I'd rather have a lower sedan (better yet - a sports coupe! Yay right, I'll keep dreaming...).

But I don't have a reservation, and would want the base model. So, honestly, maybe in three or four years I can get the Model 3 that I want.
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