SageBrush wrote: rmay635703 wrote:
SageBrush wrote:America does not lack for people who live in cold climates and keep their homes, cars and workplaces warmed up into the 70s during the winter. My New Mexico raised daughter loves to gossip about a room mate from WS who fights with her non stop to turn up the thermostat because she wants to wander around in her T-shirt and shorts.
And you think you represent the majority, thus your conclusion about heat pumps.
It's not that a heat pump isn't nifty but climate here dictates it would be of use what , 30 days a year? Wisconsin is either hot or cold, that short period in fall and spring where things are crisp and cool is just that "short"
And No I represent how Americans once were and likely will end up in the future, my Grandmother and her 3 children lived how I do into the 70's not because they had to but because it was prudent, my mother has lived with 30's era values her whole life, reusing everything.
if the majority lived the way I do we would not need oil imports, or Chinese imports, we would have no debt, no need for war, few landfills and we could live within the constraints of our local environment.
I have a distaste for people who waste tremendous amounts of energy efficiently and live green washed lives justifying improved tech just so they can waste more.
Don't get me wrong, I drive about 18000 miles a year which is a waste for my pastime and work but with a heavy handed mix of 200mpge, 70mpg insight and lastly 45mpg 4 passenger vehicle half of the miles with 1 or 2 passengers in every case I'm still using less energy per person doing it than someone who drives 3000 miles a year.
My goal is to start moving more miles to human power but I'm not there yet.
I do not believe most Americans realize the tremendous gifts they waste everyday that are likely here for the moment but will be gone for our grandchildren .
There are still those like me, some can be found here
My point is that not everyone needs an expensive device that should be optional.
Just as I believe Chevy is very short sighted in not including exhaust heat recovery as an option on the cold weather equipped "Volt", which (usuing the Malibu hybrid as an example) would add +10% onto to summer gas FE and +20% onto winter or more.