JasonA wrote:I do have a serious question for you GRA since you're the main pusher of H2 on there. And I don't mean that in a bad way, you're just the biggest(only) advocate for H2 on here really so my question is this.....
I'm not an H2 advocate
, I'm a supporter
of any reasonably promising ZEV tech that has the potential to get us off fossil fuels. I believe that currently there are three such, batteries/BEVs, H2/FCEVs, and biofuels, and am willing to support continued development and limited deployment in the near certainty that we'll be likely wasting several hundred to some billions of dollars, until one or more of them is able to completely replace fossil-fueled ICEs, and
the public are willing to buy them in the requisite numbers without having to be bribed to do so. As this is a topic that has been covered to death in the H2 and FCEV thread, any further discussion of it here is OT.
This last week was my birthday so my wife and I took the S for a 804 mile trek in 3 days.
Friday.. Leaving Burbank to Lone Pine.. Supercharging. Going to Whitney Portal.. coming back down and going to Manzanar then racing to Independence.
Sat.. Racing back down to Lone Pine, SC'ing.. then to Death Valley. Furnace Creek, Badwater then back to Lone Pine (SC'd) the up to Bishop.
Sun. Go up to Lake Isabella 8,450ft (almost, rd closed).. back down, Schats
then back to Lone Pine (SC'd) High speed 85+ mph burn to Mojave.. 15min stop.. then home at 31%..There is NO WAY ANY H2 vehicle could have made this trip. Not now, not in the future
Oh, don't be ridiculous. You might as well have said that "No H2 vehicle could have made a trip from LA to Tahoe and back. Not now, not in the future." http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=17145&p=471184&hilit=on+the+same+487#p471184
Or for that matter "No BEV could have made the trip. Not now, not in the future", which was true up to about 18 months ago, when Tesla completed the SCs along it. Any vehicle is dependent on fueling/charging infrastructure.
It's certainly true that no FCEV can make your trip now
owing to lack of infrastructure, but any H2 vehicle can make the trip to and from any point along 395 from Tahoe south as soon as they build an H2 station in Lone Pine (or somewhere close by; it or Olancha was one of the locations I recommended to the CAFCP) and someplace like Lee Vining, with Bishop or Mammoth as options, plus (depending on how much driving someone does there; for your trip you wouldn't need it), a station in Death Valley. There's no need for one in Mojave, although it's a nice to have. I also suggested one in Baker, both for round trips to Las Vegas as well as allowing a loop through Death Valley from Lone Pine/Olancha.
JasonA wrote:I remember on "Who killed the electric car" the who Hydrogen Hwy was coming, where is that?
I'd like to know when this H2 dream is coming?
See the California H2 stations thread for that, as it has both the current and next round of funding plans. Currently there are 25 full retail stations, including 4 (Sacramento, Harris Ranch, Del Mar and Truckee) [Edit: I should add two more, Santa Barbara and San Juan Capistrano
] that are part of a hydrogen highway network that allows inter-regional travel. Unfortunately, while they're adding redundancy to I-5 in the next round, neither adds coverage for 395, and I've been lobbying CAFCP to get some along it as well as some serving Yosemite and Sequoia/Kings Canyon. The next round of funding solicitations should be dated 2017, but based on the lag time between solicitation for and award of the current round of grants they probably won't be awarded until mid-2018 or early 2019.