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Re: Porsche "Misson E" - A 300 mile EV

Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:38 pm

Porsche 'playing' the Model 3 'game':

Reserving a Porsche Mission E allegedly costs only $1,000 and guarantees you a markup-free sale.

Tesla created a bit of a stir when they began taking pre-order deposits for their Model 3 EV prior to the car’s launch. The move helped the company raise much needed cash for the endeavor, with over 300,000 people chipping in $1,000 to hold their place in line. Now, it appears that Porsche is taking a page from Tesla’s EV planning by doing exactly the same thing with the Mission E. At least, that’s what Reddit user cloudone is claiming.

“Just put in a deposit for a Porsche Mission E at my local dealership. They told me there are already 20 people in front of me. I’m already a big fan of electric cars, [and I] can’t wait to fly to Stuttgart to pick up my car. ETA is 2 years.”

The cost for reserving Porsche’s first all-electric vehicle? A Model 3-matching $1,000. Obviously, Porsche doesn’t need the cash to spurn development, as Tesla did with its entry level sedan. Since the Mission E and its development costs are already covered, you don’t risk losing your cash. But it’s still interesting that Porsche would choose to allow this to happen.


https://rennlist.com/articles/porsche-reportedly-taking-pre-order-deposits-mission-e/
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Re: Porsche "Misson E" - A 300 mile EV

Sat Nov 11, 2017 7:44 am

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Re: Porsche "Misson E" - A 300 mile EV

Sun Apr 01, 2018 10:12 am

A BEV market advancement in charging options over other BEVs:

Charging time and the range of a car are key topics in electromobility. Porsche is breaking new ground with the Mission E by doubling the standard charging voltage to 800. This results in shorter charging times as well as less weight, because power can be transmitted by thinner copper wires. The size of the lithium-ion battery enables the car to drive more than 300 miles on a single charge. It needs only 15 minutes to recharge for another 250 miles of range. Just enough time for a coffee break.
Porsche calls this concept turbo-charging. Plans are already in place to equip charging stations along German freeways with 800-volt technology. The Mission E can make do with less, of course. It can be charged at conventional 400-volt stations, or inductively and conveniently in its own garage. With a coil installed in the garage floor, all the car has to do is park over it for power to be transferred wirelessly to the coil’s counterpart in the underbody. Refueling of the future.


To minimize the driver’s having to re-direct his focus to a center-positioned display as some vehicles now have:

To cut to the chase: the driver will continue to be Porsche’s number one focus in the future. Everything revolves around the driver, including the controls. Should the driver lean to the side, sit up higher, or sink down in the seat, the five OLED round instruments that are virtually displayed on the flat, free-standing panel will follow these movements with what is referred to as a parallax effect. This helps prevent the steering wheel from blocking important information. And there’s more. Thanks to an eye-tracking system, the camera sensors always know which instrument the driver is looking at. Pressing a button on the steering wheel will then activate that instrument. Driving pleasure is guaranteed. So is feedback—the face-tracking system reflects this pleasure by displaying the corresponding emoticon on the instrument; this can be saved and shared along with further data.


No need to hopefully wait for an OEM OTA to change an undesired feature:

The dashboard is brimming with new ideas as well. Based on the cockpit design of the very first 911, a broad holographic display can be activated with a wave of the hand. The driver or front passenger can then operate the radio, navigation system, climate control, phone, and individual apps in touch-free form. Intuitive gestures, detected by sensors, do the trick. The Mission E can also be configured externally via Porsche Car Connect. Using “Over the Air and Remote Services” allows owners to modify the car’s functions from their smartphone or tablet. A simple update via the integrated high-speed data module is all it takes to save new infotainment features or engine and suspension settings.


https://www.porsche.com/usa/aboutporsch ... article01/
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Re: Porsche "Misson E" - A 300 mile EV

Sun Apr 01, 2018 9:26 pm

This seems pretty nice and more Porsche-like than Panamera's orgy of buttons.

https://files1.porsche.com/filestore/im ... normal.jpg

Unsure about the gesture control vs voice control. Has to be really well executed.
Not so hot on the suicide doors. Overall, looking forward to seeing this in 2020. Why would anyone buy a Panamera or a 911 4S? At least it may stem the bleeding.

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Re: Porsche "Misson E" - A 300 mile EV

Sun Apr 29, 2018 8:55 am

Porsche will have their ecosystem, i.e. a SC network, too.


Porsche knows that it can't just compete against Tesla by producing fast electric cars -- part of Tesla's advantage stems from a Supercharger network that gives you the confidence to drive long distances. To that end, Porsche's North American chief Klaus Zellmer has revealed to Automotive News that his company is planning to complete a network of 500 fast charging stations in the US by the end of 2019. About 189 of those stations will reside at dealerships, while the rest will sit along highways. You might need only brief pit stops (Porsche's system charges the Mission E to 80 percent capacity in less than 20 minutes) to continue on a cross-country journey.



https://finance.yahoo.com/news/porsche- ... 00127.html
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Re: Porsche "Misson E" - A 300 mile EV

Wed May 02, 2018 4:41 am

lorenfb wrote:Porsche will have their ecosystem, i.e. a SC network, too.


Porsche knows that it can't just compete against Tesla by producing fast electric cars -- part of Tesla's advantage stems from a Supercharger network that gives you the confidence to drive long distances. To that end, Porsche's North American chief Klaus Zellmer has revealed to Automotive News that his company is planning to complete a network of 500 fast charging stations in the US by the end of 2019. About 189 of those stations will reside at dealerships, while the rest will sit along highways. You might need only brief pit stops (Porsche's system charges the Mission E to 80 percent capacity in less than 20 minutes) to continue on a cross-country journey.



https://finance.yahoo.com/news/porsche- ... 00127.html


Porsche uses CCS. I wonder if they will open their network to other CCS-capable cars, or if it will be another "walled garden".
~Brian

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Re: Porsche "Misson E" - A 300 mile EV

Thu May 31, 2018 7:13 am

No frequent OTAs, e.g. Tesla, needed when beta testing is done before customer deliveries;

https://rennlist.com/articles/moves-lik ... mission-e/

And not much more than a fully loaded M3;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmzUJjIY9sQ
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