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Re: Hyundai Ioniq BEV, hybrid, and PHEV.

Sun Feb 26, 2017 3:52 pm

edatoakrun wrote:Excellent discussion of the Ioniq, with comparisons to other BEVs and PHEVs at the thread below:

http://www.cleanmpg.com/community/index ... ads/54013/

The images of the trim and option packages at the bottom of the first page makes clear just how well-equipped the base BEV is, for only ~$30k, before incentives.

Nice pictures
I like how they beat the Leafs cargo capacity (23.6 cubic feet w/ rear seats up and 30 w/ seats down) , Ioniq 23.8 cubic feet w/seats up ( no detail w/ seats down).
Also total interior volume - Leaf 116 cu ft , Ioniq 120 cu ft.
More room for tools and my 8' ladder.
Wonder if those rear seats sit flat and the passenger seat folds flat to the rear as well?
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Re: Hyundai Ioniq BEV, hybrid, and PHEV.

Sun Feb 26, 2017 6:47 pm

I really hope that the base model has parking sensors and a heated steering wheel, because Hyundai seems to have jumped on the awful 'Leather Is Mandatory' bandwagon for the higher trims.
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Re: Hyundai Ioniq BEV, hybrid, and PHEV.

Sun Feb 26, 2017 8:24 pm

^^^
ICCB :? just when EVSE was beginning to be second nature Hyundai changes it to ICCB( An integrated In-Cable Control Box).....
No mention of any heated steering wheel on the comparison chart, leather steering wheel even on base(good thing) forced to get leather on anything except the base(not so good as like you I don't care for leather seating).
Also no mention of rear seat heaters, although I'd have to assume at least the top trim has them. Heated steering wheel and rear seats was a major selling point for my new '13S......probably why Nissan dropped rear seat heat on later base models......got to give people a reason to purchase the higher(more profitable ;) ) trim models!
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Re: Hyundai Ioniq BEV, hybrid, and PHEV.

Sun Feb 26, 2017 10:01 pm

jjeff wrote:^^^
ICCB :? just when EVSE was beginning to be second nature Hyundai changes it to ICCB( An integrated In-Cable Control Box).....


Sounds like one more step to calling them 'chargers'. Gasp!

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Re: Hyundai Ioniq BEV, hybrid, and PHEV.

Sun Feb 26, 2017 10:53 pm

jjeff wrote:^^^
ICCB :? just when EVSE was beginning to be second nature Hyundai changes it to ICCB( An integrated In-Cable Control Box).....
No mention of any heated steering wheel on the comparison chart, leather steering wheel even on base(good thing) forced to get leather on anything except the base(not so good as like you I don't care for leather seating).
Also no mention of rear seat heaters, although I'd have to assume at least the top trim has them. Heated steering wheel and rear seats was a major selling point for my new '13S......probably why Nissan dropped rear seat heat on later base models......got to give people a reason to purchase the higher(more profitable ;) ) trim models!


We've seen photos of the Ioniq controls that show both wheel heating and parking sensor buttons, so hopefully the list is just incomplete. As for the "ICCB" I guess we're just one step closer to calling them "charging cables."
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Re: Hyundai Ioniq BEV, hybrid, and PHEV.

Sun Feb 26, 2017 11:37 pm

So, why would I buy the Ioniq EV over the 2017 VW eGolf with upgraded battery?
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Re: Hyundai Ioniq BEV, hybrid, and PHEV.

Mon Feb 27, 2017 1:22 am

Because it isn't made by Volkswagen? Heated steering wheel (we think)?
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Re: Hyundai Ioniq BEV, hybrid, and PHEV.

Mon Feb 27, 2017 2:00 am

LeftieBiker wrote:Because it isn't made by Volkswagen? Heated steering wheel (we think)?


Neither is a deal breaker for me. Unless these sell at a big discount VW wins in my book.
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Re: Hyundai Ioniq BEV, hybrid, and PHEV.

Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:27 am

If performance is your primary concern, then the VW probably is better. If comfort and features are, along with efficiency and thus range in a variety of conditions, it looks like the Ioniq will be the car to beat. I'd like both, of course, but I rarely drive fast, and the heated steering wheel is vital for me.
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Re: Hyundai Ioniq BEV, hybrid, and PHEV.

Mon Feb 27, 2017 7:29 am

LeftieBiker wrote:If performance is your primary concern, then the VW probably is better. If comfort and features are, along with efficiency and thus range in a variety of conditions, it looks like the Ioniq will be the car to beat. I'd like both, of course, but I rarely drive fast, and the heated steering wheel is vital for me.

+1
While my Leaf was the first vehicle I owned that had a heated steering wheel, it WON'T be my last. I could almost live without heated seats(although I do like them at times) but my heated steering wheel basically never gets turned off in the winter(6+ months around here :( ). Of course that doesn't mean it never gets turned off in the winter.........as my car seems to have a bug where every 25???(WAG) restarts seems to result in the steering wheel heater getting turned off. Only takes me a matter of seconds to feel it's not on and power it back up but it's just a slight annoyance.
I've driven VWs and they tend to be more performance minded cars, at my stage in life I'm looking for more comfort/room than performance. Of course I'll still probably give any EV a sit but I have far more confidence the Ioniq would better fit my needs. I also plan on giving the Kia Nero a sit, I'll try anything. Well maybe not the Volvo X90?? PHEV as even if it's a decent car I'm not interested in spending that amount of money on a vehicle, just not going to happen. I've owned several Volvos in the past(all used, a 122, 145 and 245) and they were well made roomy safe vehicles, just never see me purchasing a new Volvo.
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