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Re: Hyundai Ioniq BEV, hybrid, and PHEV.

Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:00 pm

My Vectrix has no 12 volt battery. It too uses the DC-DC converter to start using power from the pack.
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Re: Hyundai Ioniq BEV, hybrid, and PHEV.

Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:02 pm

Personally I'd rather have it be a discrete 12v Li battery instead of incorporating it into the HV battery pack for user serviceability and note it's not just using one of the already used HV cells, according to the article "the 12V battery, which is modularized within the larger package, can be serviced."......I'm sure only by a service technician and a lot more cost than replacing a battery(even a 12v Li) by yourself :x
Still plan on giving the EV Ioniq a closer look when it hits my part of the country.
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Re: Hyundai Ioniq BEV, hybrid, and PHEV.

Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:12 pm

Jalopnik.com is a pretty crappy site, From their (paid) review:

"Here’s the basics. Given the Ioniq’s plug-in hybrid version remains in pre-production, there were no official specs, but the other two models I tested are ready to go. The all-electric model carries 124 miles of range, 88 kW of battery power, 0 to 60 reportedly in a lethargic 10 seconds (Hyundai said it doesn’t release performance figures but some surfaced when the Ioniq was announced), 118 horsepower and 215 lb-ft of torque. "

Presumably the 88kw is the motor output.
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Re: Hyundai Ioniq BEV, hybrid, and PHEV.

Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:43 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:Jalopnik.com is a pretty crappy site, From their (paid) review:

"Here’s the basics. Given the Ioniq’s plug-in hybrid version remains in pre-production, there were no official specs, but the other two models I tested are ready to go. The all-electric model carries 124 miles of range, 88 kW of battery power, 0 to 60 reportedly in a lethargic 10 seconds (Hyundai said it doesn’t release performance figures but some surfaced when the Ioniq was announced), 118 horsepower and 215 lb-ft of torque. "

Presumably the 88kw is the motor output.


So, not much different from the Leaf, except for range.
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Re: Hyundai Ioniq BEV, hybrid, and PHEV.

Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:00 pm

If the headlights work well, you can select a less than 100% charge limit, and the car is otherwise no worse than the Leaf, it will be a clear winner when compared to it. Possibly excepting Winter driving on winding, hilly roads.
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Re: Hyundai Ioniq BEV, hybrid, and PHEV.

Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:08 pm

QC is standard, I like that.
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Re: Hyundai Ioniq BEV, hybrid, and PHEV.

Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:31 pm

SAE Combo is standard, yes. Happily, most new QC stations seem to have both kinds of fast charging plugs, at least around here.
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Re: Hyundai Ioniq BEV, hybrid, and PHEV.

Mon Feb 20, 2017 8:32 pm

The I oniq BEV has a normal 12V battery at the front.

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It is the I oniq Hybrid that has the 12V battery hidden at the back.

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Re: Hyundai Ioniq BEV, hybrid, and PHEV.

Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:19 pm

The big question is - is the Ioniq any better than Ford Focus EV. No, not in terms of technology - but in terms of selling intent.

FFE was also "available for ordering" from all states (IIRC). But never reached above 2k per year in sales ! In 2016 sold less than 1k !!
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Re: Hyundai Ioniq BEV, hybrid, and PHEV.

Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:21 pm

The FFE is a compliance car based on an existing ICE platform. The Ioniq is a new platform designed with multiple drivetrains in mind, including EV. Hopefully the Hyundai will also prove more reliable, from what I've read about the FFE.
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