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Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid - PHEV minivan

Mon Jan 11, 2016 2:23 am

http://www.autoblog.com/2016/01/11/2017 ... -official/

Chrysler's just calling it a hybrid despite it being a PHEV. Supposedly has up to 30 miles of range and a 16-kWh. Finally we'll have a hybrid minivan in the US. There have been non-plugin hybrid minivans in Japan for ages.
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Re: Chrysler Pacifica PHEV minivan

Mon Jan 11, 2016 2:31 am

It's a shame we'll be getting it from Chrysler/Fiat.
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Re: Chrysler Pacifica PHEV minivan

Mon Jan 11, 2016 2:33 am

Now that I think about it more, probably a very good reason for it existing is to improve their light truck CAFE average since IIRC, FCA's CAFE numbers are pretty low.

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Re: Chrysler Pacifica PHEV minivan

Mon Jan 11, 2016 3:36 am

Hybrids would be more effective at that, through greater sales. I think the PHEV is to get ZEV credits.
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Re: Chrysler Pacifica PHEV minivan

Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:40 am

Full $7,500 tax credit available because of battery size.
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Re: Chrysler Pacifica PHEV minivan

Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:29 am

Plus they are quoting 2 hours for a full battery charge, which means it's at least got a 6.6kW charger. If you like minivans, this thing looks like it's going to check a hell of a lot of boxes. And all they had to get rid of was _second_ row seat stowing. The third row still folds flat. There's so much room to play with in these larger cars. And with the full government rebate, I doubt the plugin will even cost that much more.

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Re: Chrysler Pacifica PHEV minivan

Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:35 am

Yep, the last manufacturer from whom I'd by a vehicle! The worst reliability in the industry...

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Re: Chrysler Pacifica PHEV minivan

Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:19 am

It does have the 'magic' 30 miles of EV range; would wonder why it can be done with a big and bulky minivan but not most other makes and models (so far at least) ... of course no 'real world' testing yet

We actually owned 3 Chrysler minivan's over the years (two Dodge Grand Caravan's; a '90 and '97 and then a T&C 'clone' -- an '09 VW Routan that was a bit of a nightmare in the end); the early years burned up their transmissions; first under warranty, 2nd just past warranty but both survived over 100K miles each before starting to rust out. The T&C clone had lots of electrical gremlins that required towing it to the dealer 3X; just too many 'powered' items (seats, side doors, etc.) and the radio/GPS, etc. head unit (UCONNECT) was just terrible and would immobilize the car -- did love the remote start in cold weather; Napa leather seats and HUGE cargo capacity but agree if you were to add an EV drivetrain to the mix not sure what you would end up with. Perhaps the Fiat 'partnership' has worked through some issues but this is not something on my list --- unloaded my '09 after only 3 years and VW stopped offering them a year or two later as they probably had enough (their dealerships weren't crazy about them either).
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Re: Chrysler Pacifica PHEV minivan

Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:41 am

LeftieBiker wrote:Hybrids would be more effective at that, through greater sales. I think the PHEV is to get ZEV credits.


The ZEV credits have a ratio of both hybrid and truly zero emission. They still must sell a ZEV car (Fiat 500e).

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Re: Chrysler Pacifica PHEV minivan

Mon Jan 11, 2016 2:12 pm

TomT wrote:Yep, the last manufacturer from whom I'd by a vehicle! The worst reliability in the industry...

LeftieBiker wrote:It's a shame we'll be getting it from Chrysler/Fiat.

I'm very excited to see this car announced. Sounds like the perfect replacement for our current Dodge Grand Caravan. We love our Caravan BTW. 143,000 miles. Have had little trouble with the drive train. Have had some past issues with power sliding doors and the drivers side window, but otherwise has been fairly reliable. Drives well, handles pretty well and has enormous cargo capacity. Four of us camped in it recently. I've carried full 4x8 sheets of plywood in it. Recently built a simple bike carrier that lets us put 4 bicycles INSIDE the van, upright, still with room for plenty of stuff. We did a weeklong trip taking our bikes along.

30 miles range is the minimum to make it useful in my book but it meets that criteria. The panoramic sunroof looks awesome (spoiling), adaptive cruise control sounds like a neat gadget.

I'm curious to see how much of a premium they'll charge over a non PHEV minivan.

Also found the Budd.E to be interesting, but looks like a concept vehicle, not close to reality. Lots of talk and woefully little action from VW. They have bigger issues these days.

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