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Re: Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid - PHEV minivan

Fri Mar 11, 2016 6:04 am

I know several people with Chrysler minivans of the 00's and all are quite happy, one even has 200K+ miles with nary a problem.
In my suburb I mainly see Toyota minivans followed by Chrysler and Honda. No the Chrysler name wouldn't stop me from getting a PHEV version, it's paying $40K+ for a Chrysler minivan :( What I'd really like would be a more barebones eNV-200, with room for 5 or preferably 7(not going to happen with current NV-200 shell) selling in the $30s. Ford makes a nice 7 passenger Transit Connect in that price range(maybe even upper $20s) but alas no electric or even PHEV version......yet. Nope, guess I'll be driving the Leaf and skimping by for the next several years. It's a nice vehicle but storage and rear seat room really sucks IMO.
Sure wish they'd make a more basic Pacifica instead of the luxed out model :( not everyone needs all the go-ga's of the upper trim models, especially for a "work" type vehicle.
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Re: Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid - PHEV minivan

Fri Mar 11, 2016 6:48 am

Although we've outgrown minivans (have owned 3; a '90 and '97 DGC and then a derivative T&C '09 VW Routan; most don't even know that the VW was made by Chrysler) they do serve their purpose; unfortunately the 'worse' one was the newest due to some issues with the head unit that had the radio, GPS, etc. -- it disabled the car enough to get it towed twice to the dealer (once the wife was driving; not good; at least she was still at work when it happened) and was starting to fail/act up a third time just after the regular warranty was about to expire so we traded it for a 'real' VW (a '13 Touareg VR6 Sport).

Loved the ride height and utility of minivans; especially when our kids went to college but they're done now so don't need all that extra space; our mid-size SUV can handle all but the really big stuff that we'll simply get a pick-up truck from Home Depot, Menards or even Enterprise for a cargo van when its needed. If Chrysler opts the base 'LX' model with a plug; it will probably attract more buyers depending what the battery pack, etc. adds to the price. And yes, both our '90 and '97 needed something major in the transmissions; the '90 at just below 70K miles (so under warranty) got a new one and the '97 (although it was at about 75K miles) needed a whole new trans shift module and got the rest rebuilt; drove it another 40K miles before dropping it in a 'cash for clunkers' deal at the time.
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Re: Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid - PHEV minivan

Fri Mar 11, 2016 10:02 am

Our next-door neighbor has a 2013 Town and Country... It has been a reliability disaster from the get-go! He plans to dump it for a Honda as soon as the warranty expires...

dm33 wrote:I guess everyone has their own experiences. Chrysler minivans seem fairly reliable since the early to mid 2000s. When they first came out they were famous for transmission issues but those have been long fixed.
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Re: Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid - PHEV minivan

Fri Mar 11, 2016 11:29 am

Consumer Reports ranks the quality and reliability of these vehicles consistently at the bottom.

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Re: Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid - PHEV minivan

Fri Mar 11, 2016 1:46 pm

DanCar wrote:Consumer Reports ranks the quality and reliability of these vehicles consistently at the bottom.

If thats the case then for sure I wouldn't be interested in paying $40K+ for a PHEV that had reliability issues, I mean IMO the more go-ga's they add the more chance for problems, it's part of the reason I'd really only be interested if they had a more base model with the PHEV option :)
Of course it sounds like many of the Chrysler problems revolved around the auto trans, something lacking in a EV......oh scratch that, I guess since it had a gas engine it would probably still have a traditional transmission?? IMO the best option would be something like a Volt where the ICE was only used to charge the battery......maybe some day.....
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Re: Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid - PHEV minivan

Fri Mar 11, 2016 2:23 pm

Judging by the pictures I've seen, the plug-in didn't have the panoramic sunroof, so maybe you can get the plug-in without getting the top trim? Not proof or anything obviously, but seems to suggest that will be the case.

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Re: Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid - PHEV minivan

Fri Mar 11, 2016 2:25 pm

jjeff wrote:
DanCar wrote:Consumer Reports ranks the quality and reliability of these vehicles consistently at the bottom.

If thats the case then for sure I wouldn't be interested in paying $40K+ for a PHEV that had reliability issues, I mean IMO the more go-ga's they add the more chance for problems, it's part of the reason I'd really only be interested if they had a more base model with the PHEV option :)
Of course it sounds like many of the Chrysler problems revolved around the auto trans, something lacking in a EV......oh scratch that, I guess since it had a gas engine it would probably still have a traditional transmission?? IMO the best option would be something like a Volt where the ICE was only used to charge the battery......maybe some day.....
Knowing all the issues, I'm still interested, since it is the only game in town. I'll wait some months till the great lease deal comes out. Great lease deals might be California only cause they need to meet their plug-in quota.

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Re: Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid - PHEV minivan

Wed Mar 16, 2016 12:46 pm

Well I visited my local auto show and while they didn't have the Pacifica PHEV, they had several ICE only versions. I must admit it wasn't a bad looking van, lots of room for both people and cargo. Kind of too bad the PHEV will omit the sto-n-go for the 2nd row of seats but I suppose they had to have somewhere to put the battery, I could live without it. They knew very little of the PHEV version, kind of odd for a vehicle they say will debut this fall :roll: My main concern will be that they only offer it in the totally luxed out version, something I'm not interested in at all. My guess is it will be this way for the first year or two and only by the 3rd year will they offer a more basic version for less cost.

I visited the VW area and not a BUDDe to be found, in fact it took 2 salespeople to find anyone who even knew what one was :roll: It's my believe that this will be one of those concept cars that will never see the light of day, devised by VW to try and defray public opinion away from their diesel fiasco. I hold out very little hope for the BUDDe.

I also visited the Mitsubishi area and again no PHEV version but the salesman did seem to know a little about it. Truthfully I think this vehicle may hold out the most hope of something to replace my Leaf. It was quite roomy(the non PHEV version which I was told the only space difference to the PHEV would be the lack of a third row of seating, something I'd miss but could live without). The Mitsubishi was more a basic vehicle compared to the Pacifica, of course I wonder if they might do the same thing where the PHEV is only offered in some luxed out version.....time will tell, until then I'll just have to live with my trusty little Leaf :)
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Re: Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid - PHEV minivan

Sat Apr 02, 2016 4:44 pm

FWIW, this weeks Motorweek on PBS did a kind of review of the '17 Pacifica(not the Hybrid but they did mention it should be out this fall) and were quite impressed with the ICE version. In passing they mentioned the Hybrid version is expected to be in the mid 30s, which would suit me just just fine :) I'm guessing it will be more like low 40s but one can hope they'll offer a more basic model PHEV.
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Re: Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid - PHEV minivan

Sat Apr 02, 2016 6:47 pm

jjeff wrote:FWIW, this weeks Motorweek on PBS did a kind of review of the '17 Pacifica(not the Hybrid but they did mention it should be out this fall) and were quite impressed with the ICE version. In passing they mentioned the Hybrid version is expected to be in the mid 30s, which would suit me just just fine :) I'm guessing it will be more like low 40s but one can hope they'll offer a more basic model PHEV.

I'm holding out for Carplay. Just bought a Mini and its integration with the iPhone is worse than the LEAFs. I'll be hard pressed to buy another car without Carplay. May have to wait until the '18 Pacifica if our current minivan holds out that long.

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