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Re: Nissan's e-Power range-extended Note BEV, for sale by 11/16 in Japan?

Tue Sep 20, 2016 2:52 pm

Marktm wrote:If so, apparently Nissan is blurring the lines of "range extended BEV" and "hybrid". With only 7kwh, it will be mostly ICE with "regen" - except for the shortest of commutes.


I don't know, 7kw gives me 40 miles of range in my 2400lb Miles ZX40 minivan

At that range its no different than a Gen I volt, which for me has worked just fine.

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Re: Nissan's e-Power range-extended Note BEV, for sale by 11/16 in Japan?

Sun Sep 25, 2016 8:35 am

rmay635703 wrote:The car is a 1liter 3banger with a little over 7kwhr of battery...

Any source for that, or just a guess?

It would be a disappointment, IMO, that following the earlier announcements, Nissan would be planning only onbuilding a better PHEV.
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Re: Nissan's e-Power range-extended Note BEV, for sale by 11/16 in Japan?

Sun Sep 25, 2016 9:04 am

I will have to dig, it was off several translated pages, some refer to a 1 liter some to a 1.2 liter Miller cycle, pages were relatively recent.

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Re: Nissan's e-Power range-extended Note BEV, for sale by 11/16 in Japan?

Thu Sep 29, 2016 8:17 am

Photos of the new Note E-Power, one exterior and one under-the-hood, and photos of some Japanese docs posted here:

http://blog.livedoor.jp/ganbaremmc/arch ... 10589.html

Translation of Japanese docs in photos required.

Anyone able to find the battery capacity or ICE output in KW?

The various schematics appears to show a three (or four, or both?) cylinder inline ICE, so not too promising, IMO.

Perhaps the red sections of what appears to be a drive cycle graph indicate when the ICE is in operation?
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Re: Nissan's e-Power range-extended Note BEV, for sale by 11/16 in Japan?

Mon Oct 31, 2016 12:51 pm

Without more photos, you can't even tell if it has only one (gas) fuel door, or also has a charge (and/or discharge) port.

Nissan Motor today revealed the 2017 Note, which marks the mid-life facelift of the current generation.

...the real star of the show is the new e-Power model. Described simply as a "hybrid," it's said to achieve an incredible 37.2 kilometers per liter on the Japanese driving cycle, which is equivalent to 2.69 l/100km for you metric fans, 87.4 mpg U.S. or 105 mpg UK.

Now, there's no way of telling how correct those numbers are for American or European driving cycles. However, Nissan doesn't say that the Note is the most efficient hybrid in Japan because it's probably a range-extended EV... allegedly...

Based on a brochure that's been leaked a few weeks ago, the Note e-Power is powered by EM57 electric motor located at the front axle. As for the range-extended part, this comes from a familiar HR12DE 1.2-liter three-cylinder petrol engine which charges the battery. It hasn't been launched yet, so all the tech details aren't clear...

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/2017- ... 2415.html#

Any one able to watch the video and translate any more details?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1PpHxwPfm4
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Re: Nissan's e-Power range-extended Note BEV, for sale by 11/16 in Japan?

Mon Oct 31, 2016 3:19 pm

I'd guess the charging port is under the front emblem, with a swing-up cover like the Leaf.
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Re: Nissan's e-Power range-extended Note BEV, for sale by 11/16 in Japan?

Mon Oct 31, 2016 4:32 pm

The more I squint at this photo:

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/ganbaremmc/i ... 302711.jpg

The less I see something that looks to me like the ~1.2 L 3 cylinder ICE that has been widely reported.

Anyone else see that in the photo?

And if not, what does that ICE look like to you?

Here's what a 1.7 L Versa looks like, for comparison.

~Same engine bay, but with far more familiar-looking contents...

http://images.newcars.com/images/car-pi ... hoto-2.png

And here's the 1.2 L 3 cylinder in a micra:

http://images.cdn.autocar.co.uk/sites/a ... k=I4XHGZL8

We may get a lot more details in just ~another day:

Of November 2, it will be announced on a certain bulletin board...

http://blog.livedoor.jp/ganbaremmc/arch ... 10589.html
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Re: Nissan's e-Power range-extended Note BEV, for sale by 11/16 in Japan?

Tue Nov 01, 2016 9:18 pm

this looks a lot like a BMW i3, but without a plug

strict series hybrid, no direct connection from engine to wheels, but no plug!

but its all in Japanese, so i could be wrong, hopefully very wrong

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Re: Nissan's e-Power range-extended Note BEV, for sale by 11/16 in Japan?

Wed Nov 02, 2016 7:26 am

http://newatlas.com/nissan-e-power-rang ... ain/46244/

All it offers are clearer pictures but total fluff otherwise.

Might as well advertise a turbo encabulator.

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Re: Nissan's e-Power range-extended Note BEV, for sale by 11/16 in Japan?

Wed Nov 02, 2016 7:59 am

It is a 1.3 litre, and NO CHARGE PORT???

Total fail, IMO, if it's only a superior (?) gas-fueled hybrid.

I want every battery (and every ICE) in every ELECTRIC vehicle I buy buy to have grid/home connectivity, so I can charge/discharge, and move MY electricity whenever and wherever I want to.

Nissan wants to sell me a car with an extremely efficient ~50 kW (?) generator, and not allow me use those kW for anything other than driving the car?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPSRE9e06wg

Are we so addicted to gasoline we actually want our ELECTRIC cars to use it as the sole source of energy?

...The e-POWER system allows you to enjoy all the benefits of an EV without having to worry about charging the battery....

Nissan is committed to developing electric-powered powertrains that use various fuels to cater to the different requirements of the world's markets. e-POWER is but one example of that quest and will strengthen Nissan's lineup of electric-powered powertrains. Nissan is also conducting research and development of the SOFC (Solid Oxide Fuel Cell) fuel-cell vehicle, and will continue to introduce innovative new products into various areas and promote the worldwide use of EVs...

https://newsroom.nissan-global.com/releases/161102-02-e
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