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Re: Jaguar I-PACE BESUV available 2018

Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:43 pm

Via IEVS:
WATCH AS JAGUAR I-PACE GETS TEST DRIVEN, SCORES ONLY 6 OUT OF 10
https://insideevs.com/jaguar-i-pace-test-driven-video/

. . . The I-Pace is definitely quick, sporty, agile and responsive. The quick review includes a look at the exterior, interior and trunk, too.

The overall verdict for the Jaguar I-Pace is surprisingly low though – just 6/10 from Carwow, who lists:

    Pros:

    Very quick
    Big boot for a car this size
    High-tech cabin
    Cons:

    No seven-seat option
    Quite expensive
    Fiddlier infotainment than in alternatives. . . .
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Re: Jaguar I-PACE BESUV available 2018

Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:46 pm

carwow is insane. maybe they should shift to reviewing wash machines and vacuums like CR.
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Re: Jaguar I-PACE BESUV available 2018

Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:57 pm

GRA wrote:Via IEVS:
WATCH AS JAGUAR I-PACE GETS TEST DRIVEN, SCORES ONLY 6 OUT OF 10
https://insideevs.com/jaguar-i-pace-test-driven-video/


...Cons:

No seven-seat option...

What more can you say about a reviewer whose #1 complaint is that it's not a minivan...
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Re: Jaguar I-PACE BESUV available 2018

Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:46 pm

I'm equally concerned that he doesn't know what windshield wipers are, or how they work. How much of a twit do you have to be to work there?
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Re: Jaguar I-PACE BESUV available 2018

Wed Mar 21, 2018 6:46 am

edatoakrun wrote:What more can you say about a reviewer whose #1 complaint is that it's not a minivan...

There's no such thing as "comfortable for five adults" with two row seating. There's also no such thing as third row seating that is comfortable for adults in SUVs or crossovers... in order for the space in the rear to comfortably accommodate adults you need a flat floor, cab forward design and a roofline that doesn't slope down too much. There are plenty of vehicles into which you can cram more than four adults, but the only design where you can do so comfortably are minivans (without going to larger types of vehicles).
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Re: Jaguar I-PACE BESUV available 2018

Wed Mar 21, 2018 6:57 pm

LTLFTcomposite wrote:
edatoakrun wrote:What more can you say about a reviewer whose #1 complaint is that it's not a minivan...

There's no such thing as "comfortable for five adults" with two row seating. There's also no such thing as third row seating that is comfortable for adults in SUVs or crossovers... in order for the space in the rear to comfortably accommodate adults you need a flat floor, cab forward design and a roofline that doesn't slope down too much. There are plenty of vehicles into which you can cram more than four adults, but the only design where you can do so comfortably are minivans (without going to larger types of vehicles).

It is what it is and should be reviewed accordingly. No need to compare to a Prius, F350 or minivan.
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Re: Jaguar I-PACE BESUV available 2018

Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:09 am

I suspect these may be the 320 PS variant.

Quite a nice-sized order for Jaguar, though.

Waymo and Jaguar Team Up With 20,000 Car Self-Driving Fleet

...Under the accord, Alphabet Inc.’s Waymo will integrate its self-driving system into Jaguar’s I-Pace electric SUVs, the first all-electric offering from the luxury unit of Tata Motors Ltd. Waymo said it plans to place 20,000 autonomous I-Pace vehicles on the road for tests in 2018. By 2020, the vehicles will become part of Waymo’s ride-hailing taxi service, set to begin this year...

The companies didn’t disclose financial terms, but Waymo is planning to purchase the I-Pace vehicles, which sell for $69,500. That would place Waymo’s payment for the deal at more than $1.3 billion.

Jaguar CEO Ralf Speth said he’d already “ringfenced” the 20,000 I-Paces for Waymo.The vehicle will go on sale to the general public in the U.S. toward the end of this year. He emphasized the partnership as a way for Jaguar to embrace new forms of transportation while preserving the thrill of driving that attracts new-car buyers..

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ving-fleet

A more plausible delivery schedule reported here;

...Jaguar will deliver its vehicles for Waymo’s ride-hailing from 2020 to 2022. Waymo says the 20,000 I-Pace models will provide up to 1m rides per day...

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... land-rover
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Re: Jaguar I-PACE BESUV available 2018

Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:28 am

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Re: Jaguar I-PACE BESUV available 2018

Sun Apr 15, 2018 9:27 am

Funny hearing the guy talking about Jaguar and quality control.
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Re: Jaguar I-PACE BESUV available 2018

Tue May 22, 2018 6:41 am

Jaguar I-PACE eTROPHY all-electric race prototype takes its first lap

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... 9vAHuQfHys
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