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Official Ford C-MAX Energi PHEV thread

Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:22 am

Ford will reveal its C-MAX Energi plug-in hybrid and C-MAX Hybrid in Detroit auto show.

http://green.autoblog.com/2011/01/10/20 ... ax-hybrid/

Ford will launch C-MAX Energi, its first-ever production plug-in hybrid electric vehicle, and C-MAX Hybrid, a full hybrid variant, in North America in 2012 and Europe in 2013
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Targeted to achieve AT-PZEV (Advanced Technology Partial Zero Emissions Vehicle) status, C-MAX Energi provides maximum fuel efficiency by pairing a high-voltage lithium-ion battery and electric traction motor with a high-efficiency Atkinson-cycle gasoline engine. This allows it to run in electric mode before using the gasoline engine.

C-MAX Energi will offer more than 500 miles (800 kilometers) of overall driving range using the battery and engine – more than any other plug-in or extended-range electric vehicle. C-MAX Energi delivers better charge-sustaining fuel economy than Chevrolet Volt.
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C-MAX Hybrid is targeted to deliver better fuel economy than the 41 mpg Ford Fusion Hybrid, the most fuel-efficient sedan in America today. It builds on the success of the critically acclaimed powersplit architecture Ford uses in its current hybrids, allowing it to operate in fuel-saving electric mode beyond 47 mph.




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Oh, and that grille we hated on the Focus Electric? Looks like we're going to have to get over it.
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Re: Ford C-MAX Energi plug-in hybrid

Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:53 am

WANT! Get's checkbook ready.

Chevy...this is how you should have made the Volt. :) I want a volt but I need to be able to carry 5 + people.
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Re: Ford C-MAX Energi plug-in hybrid

Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:24 am

cdub wrote:WANT! Get's checkbook ready.

Chevy...this is how you should have made the Volt. :) I want a volt but I need to be able to carry 5 + people.

Yes - Ford has pulled off quite a "miracle" by using fresh models to make EV,Plugin & Hybrid. They can vary the mix depending on the sales.

It will be interesting to see whether Volt's EREV will win out or the less pure but more practicle Energi's serial/parallel. Looks like I'll get Leaf this year and my wife gets Energi next year (after she gets over the "recall" problem).
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Re: Ford C-MAX Energi plug-in hybrid

Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:33 am

That's exactly my plan too. :) We were planning on eventually getting a used minivan to replace our civic if need be - but this c-max energi would be a good alternative. I'll pay more for electric - won't pay more for a new ICE anymore.
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Re: Ford C-MAX Energi plug-in hybrid

Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:37 am

What's important to note is that while the gasoline C-Max with sliding doors is actually based on the three-row Grand C-Max that Ford sells in other markets, the Hybrid and Energi use conventional front-hinged rear doors and seat five, just like the shorter-wheelbase C-Max available in Europe.


Doh - doesn't have the useful minivan style doors - but this size car is exactly what I wanted in a Volt style car - or even an SUV escape style... haven't seen an announcement on that yet though.
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Re: Ford C-MAX Energi plug-in hybrid

Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:07 am

cdub wrote:That's exactly my plan too.

Me three! AMP version of Volt is the only other contender on the horizon. Would prefer serial, but will settle for a good Parallel plug-in. Commute is only 8 miles round trip, but need freeway speed and microvan space.

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Re: Ford C-MAX Energi plug-in hybrid

Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:13 am

Isnt' the C-Max energi like the volt? A serial? They don't actually say anywhere - or I missed it.
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Re: Ford C-MAX Energi plug-in hybrid

Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:13 am

Seen undergoing testing ... as we're 'eventually' looking to replace a much larger vehicle with something as flexible and fuel efficient around town, this was a possibility but with the big loss of storage due to the battery in the plug-in (Energi) versus the Hybrid not so sure ... looks like a few more Focus EV's will be actually delivered to customers soon so would also be interesting to see how many reached actual retail customers in March once the sales numbers get posted. Of further interest (in the article) is the Mondeo wagon, the U.S. simply doesn't warm up to wagons much so very doubtful we'll see it which is a shame ...


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Re: Ford C-MAX Energi plug-in hybrid

Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:41 am

Interesting... Most hybrid owners don't buy another...

http://www.latimes.com/business/money/l ... 6214.story
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Re: Ford C-MAX Energi plug-in hybrid

Mon Apr 09, 2012 12:03 pm

TomT wrote:Interesting... Most hybrid owners don't buy another...

http://www.latimes.com/business/money/l ... 6214.story

This story doesn't line up with my experience. Not just myself personally, but other hybrid owners I know. I do not know anyone who ever bought a hybrid and then later went to a non-hybrid. Actually, I did. Back in 2003. But that is because we had a baby and I needed to get out of the car payments so I sold my 2003 Prius and bought a really cheap used car. But I certainly didn't want to do that, I had no choice. Of course, a few years later I bought another hybrid, and of course now I have a Leaf.
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