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Workhorse releases specs for coming W-15 extended range electric pickup

Sat Apr 15, 2017 3:49 pm

Via GCC: http://www.greencarcongress.com/2017/04 ... 4-w15.html

. . . A drivable prototype of the W-15 will be unveiled at the Advanced Clean Transportation Expo in Long Beach, California, on May 2. Production models are scheduled for delivery in 2018.

Designed specifically to meet the needs of commercial fleets, the W-15 is believed to be the first plug-in, range-extended pickup truck built from the ground up by an original equipment manufacturer (OEM).

Preliminary specifications announced today include:

    75 MPGe fuel efficiency in all-electric operation
    80-mile all-electric range
    gasoline-powered range extender
    460 system horsepower (343 kW)
    0-60 miles per hour in 5.5 seconds
    True all-wheel drive (AWD)
    Automatic braking
    Lane-departure warning
    Composite body with carbon fiber
    Double cab
    Standard bed configuration
    7.2 kW power export that allows tools to be plugged directly into the battery power source without the truck running

We'll see if it appears.
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Re: Workhorse releases specs for coming W-15 extended range electric pickup

Wed May 03, 2017 7:48 am

Looks like they did a really nice job on this, hopefully they can get it into production.

http://www.motortrend.com/news/workhors ... ve-review/

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Re: Workhorse releases specs for coming W-15 extended range electric pickup

Fri May 05, 2017 5:02 am

Looks interesting, but I am concerned about the small battery cells being air cooled. Also, more ground clearance would help off-road capability. I think lack of ground clearance was one issue that contributed to lack of sales of the GM hybrid pickups and SUVs.
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Re: Workhorse releases specs for coming W-15 extended range electric pickup

Fri May 05, 2017 5:08 am

Kind of agree about the air cooling thing :( but maybe I've been driving cars too long, where I'd feel lucky to get 6" ground clearance for snow but when I read 1' for the W-15 I thought, wow! no more dragging in the snow before the plows come out :lol:
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Re: Workhorse releases specs for coming W-15 extended range electric pickup

Fri May 05, 2017 3:14 pm

jjeff wrote:Kind of agree about the air cooling thing :( but maybe I've been driving cars too long, where I'd feel lucky to get 6" ground clearance for snow but when I read 1' for the W-15 I thought, wow! no more dragging in the snow before the plows come out :lol:

I don't live in the snow belt, only drive up to it to recreate, and as I no longer go regardless of conditions I rarely have to drive on unplowed roads anymore, so the 7.5" clearance of my Forester is wasted on me. OTOH, I do recall one trip in my '88 Subaru 4WD Turbo Wagon, which IIRC only had 4.5" of clearance, where I forced my way a couple of hundred yards along an unplowed road before giving up and having to back all the way to where I'd started. That took quite a while.

Agree on the air-cooling, although as they're limiting the usable SoC to only 66% that should help.
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Re: Workhorse releases specs for coming W-15 extended range electric pickup

Mon May 08, 2017 10:30 am

Looks like 45mpge and 80 miles range on a 60kw battery :(

http://gm-volt.com/2017/05/08/workhorse ... -act-expo/

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Re: Workhorse releases specs for coming W-15 extended range electric pickup

Mon May 08, 2017 10:52 am

rmay635703 wrote:Looks like 45mpge and 80 miles range on a 60kw battery :(

http://gm-volt.com/2017/05/08/workhorse ... -act-expo/

Fail in my book

I agree, 80 miles doesn't seem so great but theres a reason 1/2 ton 400+hp pickup truck only gets 15-20mpg while econoboxes the size of the Leaf or to a larger degree Bolt would probably get 30-40+ MPG. Personally I like the idea that they didn't dumb down the vehicle for the sake of range. A vehicle of this size and wind resistance would be bound to have < 1/2 the ICE MPG and thats what the range/kwh battery reflects.
I would have hoped more for a 100+ mile range, maybe like the 30kwh Leaf but I wasn't expecting 150+ range for this vehicle, even with a 60kwh battery.
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Re: Workhorse releases specs for coming W-15 extended range electric pickup

Mon May 08, 2017 5:21 pm

rmay635703 wrote:Looks like 45mpge and 80 miles range on a 60kw battery :(

http://gm-volt.com/2017/05/08/workhorse ... -act-expo/

Fail in my book

I'd call it a success, given that they are designing a work truck. Too much battery will eat up payload weight and space and add cost. Personally, I think they should have opted for half as much battery, but perhaps they sized it as much or more for powering auxiliary loads as they did for AER, given the option of hauling around a genset instead. I imagine they asked potential customers what was important to them before designing it.
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