Valdemar
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Re: Hyundai Kona Electric

Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:26 am

I took a closer look yesterday at LA Auto Show. Given a choice of the Kona and the Bolt, I don't know why would one buy the Bolt except for availability reasons.
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Re: Hyundai Kona Electric

Mon Dec 03, 2018 4:08 pm

Valdemar wrote:I took a closer look yesterday at LA Auto Show. Given a choice of the Kona and the Bolt, I don't know why would one buy the Bolt except for availability reasons.

If the seats don't bother you (like Keijidosha they're fine for me, at least the cloth ones in the LT I drove were), per the Edmunds' test driving dynamics would give the nod to the Bolt if you're someone who likes to drive fast in the twisties - even though I didn't have the chance to do so when I drove one, I really liked the Bolt's regen controls and general feel. If the Kona comes in about the same price or less than the Bolt it's undoubtedly a better value for the dollar, and the better ride would give it the nod for A to B commuting on the potholed, truck-waved freeways we have.
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Re: Hyundai Kona Electric

Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:22 pm

IEVS:
Hyundai Kona Electric Gets Range Downgraded Too: Follows Kia Niro EV
https://insideevs.com/hyundai-kona-electric-range-lowered-wltp/

When the specifications for the 64-kWh version of the Hyundai Kona Electric first appeared, it was graced with a range of 292 miles under Worldwide harmonized Light vehicles Test Procedure (WLTP). If it seemed a little too good to be true, that’s because it was. The automaker has learned that the external agency responsible for making the calculation slipped up, and Hyundai has now published new, lower figures.

According to a report in Autocar, the 64-kWh Kona Electric is now rated at 279 miles under the WLTP, while the 39.2-kWh version — which will not be available in the U.S. — has been downgraded from 186 miles to 180 miles. The news comes after learning that its corporate cousin, the Kia Niro EV (e-Niro), suffered the same fate. . . .

In the U.S., meanwhile, the EPA has rated the 64-kWh Kona Electric at 258 miles, which we believe is a more realistic figure. For its part, the (64-kWh) Kia Niro EV was given a more believable 239 miles of travel on a charge using the U.S. agency test.

Now the WLTP to EPA numbers make more sense.
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Re: Hyundai Kona Electric

Sat Dec 15, 2018 5:07 pm

GCC:
Hyundai prices Kona Electric starting at $36,450 before Fed tax credit
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2018/12/20181215-kona.html

Hyundai announced that the starting price for the 2019 Kona Electric electric crossover is $36,450, for an effective net price of $28,950 ($29,995 including delivery), with the electric vehicle tax credit of $7,500 factored in. . . .

That's a base MSRP only $170 less than the Bolt LT, although you get more car for that.
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GetOffYourGas
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Re: Hyundai Kona Electric

Sat Dec 15, 2018 5:36 pm

Indeed. Compared to the Bolt, it is 5% cheaper, has a 7% larger battery, 8% longer range, 0.5% more power... Then there are the subjective measures of comfort, etc. It's a good incremental improvement for sure. The Bolt is due for a mid-cycle refresh in 2020 or so. It will be interesting to see whether Chevy responds with their own incremental improvements.
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Re: Hyundai Kona Electric

Mon Dec 17, 2018 9:02 pm

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