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2017 Carbon Raffle - Tesla @ $120K, Model 3, Model 3, taxes, cash

Fri Jun 09, 2017 3:31 pm

Dear Other Electric Cars & Plug-In Hybrids Forum,

This thread is about the 2017 Climate XChange(1) Carbon Pricing Awareness Raffle, which I'm(2) saying right away so that you can skip this post if you're not interested in this sort of thing.

Related website: http://www.climatexchangeraffle.org/?utm_source=mynissanleaf&utm_medium=article&utm_campaign=xcx (note that the link has embedded referral information so we can tell clicks originate from a connection with mynissanleaf.com). Alternate, easier path to say: https://carbonraffle.org.

The goals of the raffle are two-fold: (1) raise awareness about carbon pricing as a solution for carbon emissions overload, and particularly the efforts going on about that in Massachusetts and (2) raise funds for that mission. I also have a personal goal of giving away a Tesla Model S or Model X plus helping put two more winners into Model 3s (assuming they want that) because I'm insane for the car and the company.

Have we done this before? Yes.(3) Successfully? Yes.(3) Really?!?! Yes, yes!(3) There's even a thread on mynissanleaf about the 2015 raffle. See: http://mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?t=21070

Here's some quick info about the prizes:

  • Grand Prize - $120K Model S sedan or Model X SUV PLUS we pay the $40K federal income tax withholding payment = $160K
    • There’s also an all-cash option in case a winner prefers cash instead of the car
  • 2nd - early Model 3 reservation, putting the Winner in the stood-in-line-first-morning category(4) + $1K reservation deposit + $10,000 cash + $3,666 fed. inc. tax pmt. = $14,666
    • Because we think you'll get your Model 3 much sooner than otherwise, we think you'll still be in plenty of time to qualify for the $7,500 federal income tax credit(5)
    • People who don’t want to get Model 3 can take cash instead
  • 3rd - same as second except $5K cash and $2K tax pmt = $8,000
    • Again, we think you'll be in time to qualify for the $7,500 federal tax credit.(5)
    • Again, a Winner who doesn't want to get Model 3 can take cash instead
  • 4th, 5th, 6th - cash ($2K), cash ($1K), cash ($1K)
    • Total 6 prizes, max 2500 tickets, ticket price remains $250

    Now, if you only are interested in an awesome Raffle, with amazing Prizes, then you might want to stop right here.

    Otherwise, I'm gonna tell you a little about about what the heck is going on with carbon pricing in Massachusetts. Here are some quick points:
    • There are now TWO bills on the table in the MA legislature.
    • One is the revenue-neutral — as in all money raised is rebated back to households and businesses — bill originating in the Senate, S.1821.
      • See S.1821, An Act Combating Climate Change, https://malegislature.gov/Bills/190/S1821
      • First introduced two sessions back and sponsored by Barrett, it has gone from a dozen co-sponsors back then to 79 co-sponsors now (out of a total of 200 sen+house legislators).
    • The other bill is “revenue-positive” — as in 80% of the money raised is rebated and the other 20% goes to environmental, global warming impact remediation projects.
    • Both bills have had heavy involvement from Climate XChange.
    • These bills have both moved to the Telecommunications, Utilities and Energy (TUE) committee
      • Now chaired by Sen Barrett
    • The next step will be a hearing in front of the TUE committee on June 20, 1-5 pm, MA State House, Room 437.
      • I am told it’s the biggest hearing room in the building
      • We PACKED the last hearing, in October, 2015 -- but smaller room. Estimated 300+ people, overflowing out into the hallways and standing around everywhere.
      • We need to do it again, only even more.
      • PLEASE ATTEND TO SHOW YOUR SUPPORT.

    There are more steps to take around further engagement specifically with House members and also with Governor Charlie Baker. After all, the bill will have to get passed in both chambers and then signed. But one good sign is that Charlie Baker, a moderate Republican, has signed Massachusetts up to be part of the United States Climate Alliance along with California, New York, Washington State, and eight other states plus Puerto Rico. This alliance was announced the day after Trump withdrew the USA from the Paris climate agreement. So if Baker is willing to sign up for this alliance, I take that as a positive sign that he will listen hard to the possibility of signing carbon pricing legislation.

    All right, we're giving away $187,000 in prizes in part just to get you to read paragraphs like the ones above. :D

    Good luck!

    Alan

    P.S. For the moderators: I've read the sections on appropriate posts and am hopeful that I am still well-aligned with the spirit of mynissanleaf.com and have chosen an appropriate section in which to post. If not, I hope you will move this thread to wherever it best belongs and/or contact me to clarify any questions or concerns you may have. I wish to be a good forum citizen.

    (1)Climate XChange is a 501c3 nonprofit, founded in 2013, recognized by the IRS, incorporated in Massachusetts, and registered with the Massachusetts Attorney General's Office and the Massachusetts Secretary of State's Office.

    (2)Disclosure: my wife, Jessica, co-founded Climate XChange.

    (3)We've done this once before, in 2015, including with a thread on this forum. See http://mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=21070. The Grand Prize winner configured an S85D for $93,700. The total for the Grand Prize that year was $110,700 so we also sent the Winner $17K in cash. OK, as a check, we're not stupid enough to put cash in the mail. :-) And we sent the IRS $36,730 for the Winner's federal income tax withholding due on the Prize. I'm pretty sure he was happy. He and his wife sure seemed happy!

    (4) We're not affiliated with or sponsored by Tesla, Inc., so there's no way we can guarantee your exact priority order or delivery date. Tesla's going to deliver Model 3 according to its own algorithm, e.g., from West Coast rolling towards East Coast. That said, your reservation should be treated in rough accordance with other reservations made around the time reservations opened up. Compared to, say, putting your deposit down now and being #400,000 in line.

    (5)Last I checked, we weren't an official representative of the US Government or of Tesla. Based on everything we currently understand, though, the Winners will receive their Teslas in plenty of time to still be eligible for the federal EV tax credit, but of course whether you actually get the credit depends on your individual circumstances and whether the tax credit hasn't somehow been killed off.

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    Re: 2017 Carbon Raffle - Tesla @ $120K, Model 3, Model 3, taxes, cash

    Fri Jun 09, 2017 3:36 pm

    What a maroon. I forgot to mention that the raffle drawing is July 4 at CXC headquarters, Old West Church, 131 Cambridge Street, Boston, MA. You need not be present to win.

    However, time is running out!

    Alan

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    Re: 2017 Carbon Raffle - Tesla @ $120K, Model 3, Model 3, taxes, cash

    Sun Jun 11, 2017 7:16 pm

    I've got my ticket! And so does my brother. It would be amazing to win any of the 6 prizes - but this is a good cause, and I am happy to support it.

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    Re: 2017 Carbon Raffle - Tesla @ $120K, Model 3, Model 3, taxes, cash

    Sun Jun 11, 2017 11:32 pm

    NeilBlanchard wrote:I've got my ticket! And so does my brother. It would be amazing to win any of the 6 prizes - but this is a good cause, and I am happy to support it.


    Thank you, kind sir! And thank you to your brother, as well. :-)

    And best of luck to both of you!

    Alan

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    Re: 2017 Carbon Raffle - Tesla @ $120K, Model 3, Model 3, taxes, cash

    Mon Jun 26, 2017 12:32 am

    Hi, folks,

    Tickets have been flying off the shelf! We're over 1900 now, 2500 max. Raffle closes 2 p.m. July 4. Drawing @ 7:30. Not much time left to grab a ticket or two.

    You need not be present to win (but if you do want to come join us for the BBQ @ 5:30, please RSVP on our website, then you can walk down to the Esplanade and see the fireworks and Boston Pops after the drawing); there will be a livestream(*); details will be on the website.

    Reminder of prizes:
    • Grand Prize - Model S or X @ $120K + $40K federal income tax payment (totals $160K)
    • 2nd - Model 3 early reservation + $1K deposit + $10K cash + federal income tax payment (totals $14,666)
    • 3rd - Model 3 early reservation + $1K deposit + $5K cash + federal income tax payment (totals $8,000)
    • 4th, 5th, 6th - cash ($2K), cash ($1K), cash ($1K)

    Alan

    (*)Some of you may remember the last livestream we did. What a disaster! It worked up until 5 minutes before the drawing -- it was New Year's Eve and livestream.com decided our livestream didn't need to be displayed. It all showed up the next morning but by then it was too late. So, yeah, we're gonna do two live streams this time, one on FaceBook and one TBD.

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    Re: 2017 Carbon Raffle - Tesla @ $120K, Model 3, Model 3, taxes, cash

    Sat Jul 01, 2017 2:35 pm

    FYI: 171 tickets left (out of 2500). Drawing is Tuesday, July 4 @ 7:30 p.m. Eastern Time (see [url]carbonraffle.org[/url]website for info). Ticket sales end at 2 p.m. Eastern Time.

    At roughly 7:30 Tuesday night -- not long before everyone starts to enjoy fireworks and, in Boston, at the Esplanade, also the Boston Pops orchestra -- at 7:30 or so, I say, Climate XChange will give away:

    A Tesla S or X valued at up to $120K (unless you want to configure it with fewer options and take out the difference in cash) with an accompanying federal income tax withholding payment of $40K (total value $160K).

    And then we'll give away an early reservation on a Model 3 + $1K deposit + $10K cash + $3666 federal income tax withholding payment (total value $14,666).

    And then we'll give away an early reservation on a Model 3 + $1K deposit + $5K cash + $2000 federal income tax withholding payment (total value $8000).

    And then we'll give away $2K in cash.

    And then we'll give away $1K in cash.

    And then we'll give away another $1K in cash.

    And then we'll call the lucky winners to congratulate them and start the ball rolling on delivering their prizes!

    That's what we did last time (except a bit less money for the S and the rest were electric tool prizes that everyone turned down and took the cash instead). That's what we're going to do again.

    Thanks for listening,
    Alan

    P.S. If you're nearby, please RSVP and come join us Tuesday at the BBQ @ 5:30; need not be a ticket holder. No admission fee. Bring your family and suddenly you have an awesome July 4 family plan and never have to admit that you were just winging it: spend the afternoon doing something historic (e.g., walk the Freedom Trail), then BBQ with us @ 5:30, then watch the Drawing @ 7:30, then hoof it a scan 4-5 blocks down hill to the Esplanade to see the fireworks and listen to the Boston Pops. Tell me that's not a good plan! :-)

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    Re: 2017 Carbon Raffle - Tesla @ $120K, Model 3, Model 3, taxes, cash

    Sun Jul 02, 2017 10:02 pm

    47 tickets left. 2nd and 3rd prizes include those early Model 3 reservations, $1K deposit, $10K (2nd) / $5K (3rd) cash, federal income tax withholding payment. Grand Prize? Well... tune into carbonraffle.org if you don't know yet. :-)

    While the last date and time for Carbon Pricing Awareness Raffle ticket sales is nominally Tuesday, July 4th @ 2 pm ET, it looks like we're going to sell out before that. Ticket sales close once we reach 2500.

    Drawing is Tuesday, July 4th @ 7:30 p.m. BBQ starts at 5:30 p.m. Please RSVP through the website, carbonraffle.org. I hope whoever wins Grand Prize, 2nd and 3rd will each give me a ride in their cars. :-) Doesn't matter that I have my own, I still love getting rides!

    Thanks,
    Alan

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