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Re: Official Tesla Model S thread

Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:00 pm

lorenfb wrote:
Stoaty wrote: Love the car

That's great! Enjoy.

Thanks, but you edited out the most important part: that I am not sure I can keep the car due to the awful (for me) seats.
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Re: Official Tesla Model S thread

Thu Aug 03, 2017 6:47 am

Stoaty wrote:
lorenfb wrote:
Stoaty wrote: Love the car

That's great! Enjoy.

Thanks, but you edited out the most important part: that I am not sure I can keep the car due to the awful (for me) seats.


The early cars had two seat options. (the very first had only one, then they added the option). It seems that people either loved the first ones or the second and you either liked one or the other. They finally got a good seat that everyone liked later on. But I think your car is in the time when there were two options. If you hate the ones you have, perhaps you would like the other option. Ask the service center if they have a set of the opposite seats to swap. I remember reading about several folks who swapped seats in those days, and there is a chance the service center has a set to swap out for you.
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Re: Official Tesla Model S thread

Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:38 pm

Stoaty wrote:
lorenfb wrote:
Stoaty wrote: Love the car

That's great! Enjoy.

Thanks, but you edited out the most important part: that I am not sure I can keep the car due to the awful (for me) seats.


I have to think there is an option out there that will fix the issue. There are dozens of cushions, supports, beads, vibrators, etc that people use. I would consult your local bus driver. Trust me, they will have answers (might not work for you) galore.
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Re: Official Tesla Model S thread

Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:49 am

palmermd wrote:The early cars had two seat options. (the very first had only one, then they added the option). It seems that people either loved the first ones or the second and you either liked one or the other. They finally got a good seat that everyone liked later on. But I think your car is in the time when there were two options. If you hate the ones you have, perhaps you would like the other option. Ask the service center if they have a set of the opposite seats to swap. I remember reading about several folks who swapped seats in those days, and there is a chance the service center has a set to swap out for you.

I will look into this, thanks. So far have had significant improvement by using a pillow from my bed to cushion my back. Not a full solution, but better. Will also be useful if I decide to take a nap in the car or sleep overnight. ;)
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Re: Official Tesla Model S thread

Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:08 pm

Does anyone have a good guess on when the used 2013 base model S will drop below $30k used? With the Model 3 at 35k brand new and all the hype, I'm hoping to get a lower base model S in the next year or two. Probably an S 60 or something. Family and wife gives green light as soon as we find a $29,000 Tesla with a clean title...

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Re: Official Tesla Model S thread

Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:12 pm

eyedrop wrote:Does anyone have a good guess on when the used 2013 base model S will drop below $30k used? With the Model 3 at 35k brand new and all the hype, I'm hoping to get a lower base model S in the next year or two. Family and wife gives green light as soon as we find a $29,000 Tesla with a clean title...

I'd expect the advent of the Model 3 would considerably hasten the drop in used S prices.
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Re: Official Tesla Model S thread

Sun Aug 06, 2017 3:35 pm

GRA wrote:
eyedrop wrote:Does anyone have a good guess on when the used 2013 base model S will drop below $30k used? With the Model 3 at 35k brand new and all the hype, I'm hoping to get a lower base model S in the next year or two. Family and wife gives green light as soon as we find a $29,000 Tesla with a clean title...

I'd expect the advent of the Model 3 would considerably hasten the drop in used S prices.
That's my expectation as well. I think we might see a $30k S60 as soon as a year from now.
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Re: Official Tesla Model S thread

Fri Aug 11, 2017 1:37 pm

dgpcolorado wrote:
GRA wrote:I'd expect the advent of the Model 3 would considerably hasten the drop in used S prices.
That's my expectation as well. I think we might see a $30k S60 as soon as a year from now.

I mostly agree with this. However, keep in mind that the US income tax credit, currently $7500, is expected to phase out for Tesla vehicles during 2018. While there's a chance that Tesla may choose to lower their prices to partly compensate for the loss of the tax credit, one might also argue that the Model 3 offers compelling value even without the tax credit and that demand will not be an issue. In any case, with less of an incentive to purchase new Teslas, I expect that the relative value of used Teslas will go up, thus slowing the drop in Model S prices.
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Re: Official Tesla Model S thread

Fri Aug 11, 2017 2:04 pm

dgpcolorado wrote:
GRA wrote:
eyedrop wrote:Does anyone have a good guess on when the used 2013 base model S will drop below $30k used? With the Model 3 at 35k brand new and all the hype, I'm hoping to get a lower base model S in the next year or two. Family and wife gives green light as soon as we find a $29,000 Tesla with a clean title...

I'd expect the advent of the Model 3 would considerably hasten the drop in used S prices.
That's my expectation as well. I think we might see a $30k S60 as soon as a year from now.

No need to wait, If you can find one of the few base S's sold.

KBB, 2012 S60 base, 80k miles, private party sale.

Price ranges from fair condition ~$29.6k, to excellent condition ~$35.5k.

https://www.kbb.com/tesla/model-s/2012/ ... ition=fair

Find one with >100k miles, and prices come down to the $25k-$30k range.
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Re: Official Tesla Model S thread

Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:12 pm

abasile wrote: While there's a chance that Tesla may choose to lower their prices to partly compensate for the loss of the tax credit, one might also argue that the Model 3 offers compelling value even without the tax credit and that demand will not be an issue. In any case, with less of an incentive to purchase new Teslas, I expect that the relative value of used Teslas will go up, thus slowing the drop in Model S prices.


Right, and the inference is that the Model 3 (basically same features) will cannibalize Model S sales resulting
in increased losses without a very significant increase, i.e. an order of magnitude, in Tesla's sales volume.

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