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2019 Mercedes Concept EQ, to be Alabama-built by 2020

Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:39 am

The premium BESUV market is looking likely to be very crowded, in just a few years.

https://www.mercedes-benz.com/en/merced ... revisited/


Mercedes Takes on Tesla With Plans to Build Electric SUVs in the U.S.


Daimler AG doesn't just plan to sell electric vehicles to U.S. consumers, the German automaker that owns the Mercedes-Benz brand wants American workers to build them too.

Daimler said Thursday it will spend $1 billion to produce electric SUVs at its Alabama factory—and build a separate battery plant—in a move that could give homegrown electric vehicle favorite Tesla a little competition.

The Mercedes electric SUV will be under a new brand called EQ, which will cover a number of electric products, from vehicles and charging services to home energy storage units. Mercedes gave the world a first look at what EQ vehicles might look like at the Paris Motor Show in 2016 when it unveiled an electric crossover concept vehicle...

The first EQ series model, EQC, will go into production in 2019 in Bremen, Germany...

the EQ isn't going to go head-to-head with the Tesla Model X. But it might be competing with Model Y as well as several other automakers including Audi and Volvo that plan to bring electric vehicles to the U.S. market in the next several years...

Daimler also plans to build a one million square-foot battery plant next to its Tuscaloosa, Ala.-based factory. This will be Daimler's fifth battery plant globally. Construction for the new facility in Tuscaloosa is expected to begin in 2018, with operations planned to start at the beginning of 2020...

http://fortune.com/2017/09/21/mercedes- ... s-alabama/

Another take:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ctric-push

MB's site showing the 2016 concept BESUV:

https://www.mercedes-benz.com/en/merced ... revisited/
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Re: 2019 Mercedes Concept EQ, to be Alabama-built by 2020

Fri Sep 22, 2017 1:15 pm

They are being coy about battery plant capacity. Since the $1B investment pays for both the factory upgrade and the battery factory, it perhaps stands to reason that the battery capacity will 10-15% of the Gigafactory (which cost $5B.)

We do know they are building a long distance SUV which will, I presume, come with a 100 kWh+ battery. My WAG then is battery supply for somewhere in the range of 30k EVs a year.
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Re: 2019 Mercedes Concept EQ, to be Alabama-built by 2020

Tue May 08, 2018 6:23 pm

That's said to be the final design, under all that camo.

Full reveal in ~four months.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7ZjkoJgXWk
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Re: 2019 Mercedes Concept EQ, to be Alabama-built by 2020

Tue Sep 04, 2018 12:58 pm

2.5 miles/kWh.

"The 80 kWh battery (10 kWh more than in the concept version) is expected to last for up to 200 miles (320 km). Then, the car will be able to recharge at 110 kW (from 10% to 80% in 40 minutes)."

https://insideevs.com/2020-mercedes-benz-eqc-revealed-range-estimated-at-200-miles/

https://www.mercedes-benz.com/en/mercedes-benz/vehicles/eqc-2019/

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Re: 2019 Mercedes Concept EQ, to be Alabama-built by 2020

Tue Sep 04, 2018 1:53 pm

The camouflaged version looks like a Kia Soul.
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Re: 2019 Mercedes Concept EQ, to be Alabama-built by 2020

Tue Sep 04, 2018 4:09 pm

KeiJidosha wrote:2.5 miles/kWh.

"The 80 kWh battery (10 kWh more than in the concept version) is expected to last for up to 200 miles (320 km). Then, the car will be able to recharge at 110 kW (from 10% to 80% in 40 minutes)."

I expect they're just being conservative and low-balling at the moment, because that's even worse efficiency than the i-Pace. I'm guessing 210 to 225 EPA. If 200 or less it's DoA. There's simply no excuse for expensive BEVs with less than 200 miles of range.
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Re: 2019 Mercedes Concept EQ, to be Alabama-built by 2020

Tue Sep 04, 2018 7:40 pm

GRA wrote:...I expect they're just being conservative and low-balling at the moment...


I hope that is true. I have seen range numbers up to 280 miles in various posts today. Caption reads "22.2kWh/100km" on the jumbo-tron behind Dieter Zetsche during the youtube Live stream world premiere from Stockholm at 16:50.

https://youtu.be/V-Da4nv48QI

Since he goes on to relate the Swedish version of the "Goldilocks" principle; "Not too little, not too much", I hear rationalizing for balance of the whole package against any one feature.
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Re: 2019 Mercedes Concept EQ, to be Alabama-built by 2020

Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:23 am

The entire drive is bulky and is designed like an ICE. There is no storage up front and there also a long column into the cabin further wasting space. What where they thinking?

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Re: 2019 Mercedes Concept EQ, to be Alabama-built by 2020

Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:38 am

Nice looking, normal SUV from a respected brand. Probably out of my price range, but maybe in 2023 when they come off lease.
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Re: 2019 Mercedes Concept EQ, to be Alabama-built by 2020

Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:18 pm

EVDRIVER wrote:The entire drive is bulky and is designed like an ICE. There is no storage up front and there also a long column into the cabin further wasting space. What where they thinking?

Update article makes just that point. Not a Clean sheet design;

"First of all, the EQC inherits from the GLC, so the German manufacturer was limited to a non-ground-up build. Regardless, Mercedes-Benz did all that was possible to adopt the skateboard design with two motors – one at each axle – and battery packs between the axles. The front trunk wasn’t able to emerge though."

https://insideevs.com/mercedes-benz-eqc-explained-video/

I expect that domestic production should improve pricing and availability for the EQC in these uncertain times, but probably not immediately.

In the end, the two pictures I have found of the cargo area with the rear seats down show it to be flat and roomy. So still a contender for me pending final measurements.
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