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Re: Kia Niro BEV

Tue Sep 11, 2018 4:42 pm

Bjorn Nyland video via IEVS:
Hyundai Kona Electric Compared To Kia Niro EV: Video
https://insideevs.com/hyundai-kona-electric-compared-kia-niro-ev-video/
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Re: Kia Niro BEV

Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:19 pm

Via IEVS:
Kia Niro EV Gets Range Rating Of Over 300 Miles
https://insideevs.com/kia-niro-ev-range-over-300-miles/

301 miles WLTP, so expect EPA to be lower. It's surprising, as the smaller and lighter Kona is only rated at 300 WLTP. If this advantage holds up in EPA rating, the Niro might manage 260 miles EPA, which would really move it to the head of the class. If only it were AWD, sales would skyrocket in the U.S., assuming they can make enough and keep the price competitive with the Bolt.
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Re: Kia Niro BEV

Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:38 pm

WhatCar review (of the Korea-spec model):
2019 Kia e-Niro review – price, specs and release date
https://www.whatcar.com/news/2019-kia-e-niro-review-%E2%80%93-price-specs-and-release-date/n17917
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Re: Kia Niro BEV

Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:10 pm

Via ABG:
Kia chasing dinero using Robert De Niro to sell e-Niro
Kia is going full meme
https://www.autoblog.com/2018/10/02/kia-e-niro-robert-de-niro-ev/

. . . the announcement at the Paris Motor Show that De Niro will lead a new advertising campaign for the Niro crossover.

The new campaign was introduced in tandem with the European debut of the all-electric version of the Kia Niro. Likewise, the De Niro campaign will strictly be used for the European market. It will include not only TV spots, but digital and print advertising, as well. In a culture that is so dependent on social media that is fueled by memes, the Niro connection seems like a no-brainer. . . .
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Re: Kia Niro BEV

Mon Nov 26, 2018 7:16 pm

Very positive video review of the Niro BEV, from AutoGefuhl: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za7oxUuPgik

While I still have to drive one and see if I can lie down stretched out in the back, I have a pretty favorable opinion and, depending on the price, I'd seriously consider it even though it lacks the AWD I really want. Ideally, I'd want the Bolt's driving controls and dynamics with the Niro's size - see the Edmunds' video comparo of the Kona and Bolt: https://insideevs.com/edmunds-hyundai-kona-electric-vs-chevy-bolt/

I've got some income coming in next year that I'll want to reduce taxes on, so maybe I'll change my usual habit of buying a car for its lifetime and opt for one of these (or else lease) for a few years, while the ZEV I really want (more range/faster QC/AWD/lower price) becomes practical. I could live with having to put chains on unnecessarily again for a few years if had to, if it meant I could take weekend trips ZEV. I still need the QC infrastructure to be built between here and Yosemite and along 395 to make it useful for me. If that gets built, the only other question is do I keep my Forester just for the multi-day road trips, or sell it and rent for those? As a single-person household having two cars seems silly, but depending on rental rates it may still make sense financially.
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Re: Kia Niro BEV

Tue Nov 27, 2018 3:28 pm

^^^
Looks nice, I like how it seems roomier in all aspects than the Leaf and even gives better ground clearance. I'm also impressed with the 64kw battery option, seems like a real nice vehicle :)
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Re: Kia Niro BEV

Tue Nov 27, 2018 8:05 pm

jjeff wrote:^^^
Looks nice, I like how it seems roomier in all aspects than the Leaf and even gives better ground clearance. I'm also impressed with the 64kw battery option, seems like a real nice vehicle :)

With GM announcing plant closures for a switch to autonomy and EVs, I may wait until the 2020s are announced, to see if they introduce a small (hopefully AWD) BCUV based on the Bolt platform, as they mentioned over a year back: https://electrek.co/2017/11/15/gm-electric-vehicles-crossover-minivan-corvette/

It won't qualify for as much tax credit, but if it's AWD, lower-priced and meets my range and other needs, I'd go for it.
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Re: Kia Niro BEV

Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:23 am

I sat in one at LA Auto Show yesterday. It had a nice premium-ish feel. Felt like a car I could live with.
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Re: Kia Niro BEV

Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:28 pm

IEVS:
Kia Niro EV Gets New, Lower Range Ratings In Europe
https://insideevs.com/kia-niro-ev-new-lower-range-ratings-europe/

. . . Autocar reports that an independent firm’s error caused an overstatement of the WLTP range of the Kia Niro EV.

After adjustments to account for the problems with the original testing, the Kia e-Niro (64-kWh battery pack) has a WLTP range of 282 miles. Previously, the rating was 301 miles. Kia has downgraded the same vehicle with its smaller 39.2-kWh pack as well. The initial 193-mile range is now set and 179 miles. . . .

EPA combined range was initially announced as 239 miles then pulled, and I don't know if that's official or not. The Kona was also re-rated under WLTP.
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