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Re: Rivian R1T and R1S

Tue Nov 27, 2018 6:49 pm

palmermd wrote:https://www.theverge.com/2018/11/27/18113257/rivian-r1s-suv-electric-la-auto-show-2018

Both are very nice looking vehicles. Kudos to the team at Rivian. Great Job!

The SUV looks better bar those awful headlights, which will hopefully be changed before it goes into production - just rotating them 90 deg. would help some, but it's just too big and too expensive for me. Love the range, though, and Tesla and everyone else making luxo SUVs will need to up their game. Now they just have to survive until production.
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Re: Rivian R1T and R1S

Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:51 am

Tesla needs to put a wiggle in it if these guys are real. I still think the SC network will be the barrier to entry.
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Re: Rivian R1T and R1S

Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:18 am

LTLFTcomposite wrote:Tesla needs to put a wiggle in it if these guys are real. I still think the SC network will be the barrier to entry.


My guess these are power hogs and the reason they need such big packs, I am skeptical of the range and it should be interesting to see real-world efficiency on that pickup truck which looks like it has questionable aerodynamics.

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Re: Rivian R1T and R1S

Wed Nov 28, 2018 12:59 pm

EVDRIVER wrote:My guess these are power hogs and the reason they need such big packs, I am skeptical of the range and it should be interesting to see real-world efficiency on that pickup truck which looks like it has questionable aerodynamics.

Have you seen any pickup trucks that didn't have questionable aerodynamics?

I supposed that which does not exist cannot be questionable.
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Re: Rivian R1T and R1S

Wed Nov 28, 2018 1:23 pm

LTLFTcomposite wrote:
EVDRIVER wrote:My guess these are power hogs and the reason they need such big packs, I am skeptical of the range and it should be interesting to see real-world efficiency on that pickup truck which looks like it has questionable aerodynamics.

Have you seen any pickup trucks that didn't have questionable aerodynamics?

I supposed that which does not exist cannot be questionable.


I'm sure an EV truck could be designed to be optimized. Older Tacomas were far better than new ones. Point being they need big, and likely expensive packs. Clearly they don't have the economies of sale for pack costs.

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Re: Rivian R1T and R1S

Wed Nov 28, 2018 2:26 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4eVd23CDbU

they posted the reveal event on Youtube.
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Re: Rivian R1T and R1S

Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:13 pm

Nice followup article on the R1T from electrek.

https://electrek.co/2018/11/29/rivian-r ... uck-order/

"I wasn’t sure about the design when I first saw the pictures, but after seeing the truck in person, I am comfortable with it.
The headlights were my biggest concerns, but they look OK in person and I feel like they could eventually grow on me:
Rivian CEO RJ Scaringe told me that they are aware that it is a polarizing feature, but they think it will be a signature feature for the brand.
I think I would have preferred a horizontal setup, but I can get over it."


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Re: Rivian R1T and R1S

Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:11 pm

I got over to the LA Car Show today and saw these. I too think the headlights look better in person than they do in the pictures. Both vehicles look quite good otherwise. Though they wouldn't indicate a price level for the 180kWh versions, which is what will be needed to win my wife over on this vehicle. I suspect it will be well above my pay grade. 180kWh in batteries will have to be pricey.

One thing I missed in the article was how useful that slide through storage section is, including the doors on it. Instead of the doors swinging horizontally like car or truck doors, they drop down and create a seat/step. The height is perfect to use as a seat while cleaning sand from shoes, or messing with a wet suit, etc. And they demonstrated that they are sturdy enough to use as a step for loading gear onto roof racks. And that storage space is bigger than what I expected from the pictures.
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Re: Rivian R1T and R1S

Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:03 am

LTLFTcomposite wrote:Tesla needs to put a wiggle in it if these guys are real. I still think the SC network will be the barrier to entry.


I'm not so sure. Check out this overlay of the Tesla SC network with the CCS fast charge network in Southern California.

http://rivianauto.club/xf/threads/is-th ... enough.19/

And Rivian is going to fill in blank spots at remote ourdoor destinations like parks and such.

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