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Re: Official Ford Focus Electric Thread

Thu Oct 23, 2014 6:57 am

cwstnsko wrote:When I bought my FFE in April, the equipment, features and pricing (after incentives) was almost identical to a Leaf SV. The lease amounts for the same lease terms were within a dollar of each other. With the new pricing and incentives on the Focus, it is way less expensive than the SV. If you want a very nice EV that is very comparable to the Leaf SV in range and features, can survive without QC and can tolerate a bit of battery encroachment in the cargo space, the FFE is a steal right now.


I got quoted close to $600/month for the 24 month lease (no leather), so I can easily get TWO SVs for that price. They only have a couple in the entire state, so it looks like Ford just gave the entire Georgia to Nissan. I wonder why because they would be able to sell their entire production down here if priced right.
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Re: Official Ford Focus Electric Thread

Thu Oct 23, 2014 8:43 am

A $600 a month quote on a Focus Electric is basically the dealer saying screw you, take this and eat it if you want an EV , and here let me show you some other cars I actually have in stock

$600 a month is a joke
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Re: Official Ford Focus Electric Thread

Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:50 am

Exactly - Those were the kinds of prices we were paying on 11/11/11 but not now. Another joker across town got it down to $400 but that's still a joke.
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Re: Official Ford Focus Electric Thread

Thu Oct 23, 2014 11:17 am

epic wrote:my local dealer has 5 ,2014 for sale.the 29k now is complemented with a 4k ford rebate & 0% for 60 mo.With all the government rebates I can walk with a FFE for less then 15k.In the past the x-a plans were not accepted on the FFE,that is also accepted.plus take 5 years to pay for it with NO interest.This is a real good deal IMO.They are getting down right cheap to buy.


this will definitely make it very competitive with Leaf, however I checked my local inventory and they have only one car in stock in whole DC area!?

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Re: Official Ford Focus Electric Thread

Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:33 pm

kmp647 wrote:A $600 a month quote on a Focus Electric is basically the dealer saying screw you, take this and eat it if you want an EV , and here let me show you some other cars I actually have in stock

$600 a month is a joke

Yep, the lease for our FFE with leather is $300/mo with tax. $2k down, 36mo, 12k. And that was in December with higher MSRP.
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Re: Official Ford Focus Electric Thread

Tue Dec 09, 2014 1:25 am

Anyone else hear about the huge discounts on the Focus EV? It appears that they are selling in the $25-26k range now...
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Re: Official Ford Focus Electric Thread

Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:47 am

drees wrote:Anyone else hear about the huge discounts on the Focus EV? It appears that they are selling in the $25-26k range now...

Yes, retail price for the last few months has been $29995 - $4000 incentive. Costco pricing will get you lower. The Focus electric also now qualifies for the various Ford employee/friends pricing plans. After tax credits etc, the Focus Electric is quite a bit less than a comparably equipped ICE Focus. Depending on your local incentives, the net price is probably about $17-18k right now. It's not clear if all the incentives will carry over to the 2015 models, and inventory of the 2014s is getting thin in many parts of the country, but I think there are plenty in CA
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Re: Official Ford Focus Electric Thread

Thu Mar 26, 2015 11:45 am

2013 Ford Focus Electric
Advanced Vehicle Testing – Baseline Testing Results


http://avt.inel.gov/pdf/fsev/fact2013fordfocus.pdf

AVTA test report on a broken-in FFE.

In comparison to the 2011 LEAF test:

http://avt.inel.gov/pdf/fsev/fact2011nissanleaf.pdf

viewtopic.php?f=31&t=13265

Most interesting results, IMO:

~Identical ~22.7 kW use at ~70 mph at ~identical ambient temperatures, but looks like the 2011 LEAF has slightly higher efficiency than the FFE at lower speeds, after you adjust for ambient temps.

The FFE has considerably lower Overall Trip Efficiency, maybe due to the kW draw of its thermal management system?

Are FFE battery pack temperatures normally this high (~ 93F to 100 F) during charging?

2013 LEAF test results, showing both the MY 2013 improvements in driving and Overall Trip Efficiency (~6 kW charger) over the 2011 LEAF, and also the effects of lower ambient temps at constant speed, are here:

http://avt.inel.gov/pdf/fsev/fact2013nissanleaf.pdf

viewtopic.php?f=31&t=18555
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Re: Official Ford Focus Electric Thread

Sun Mar 29, 2015 10:10 am

edatoakrun wrote:2013 Ford Focus Electric
Advanced Vehicle Testing – Baseline Testing Results


http://avt.inel.gov/pdf/fsev/fact2013fordfocus.pdf

AVTA test report on a broken-in FFE.

In comparison to the 2011 LEAF test:

http://avt.inel.gov/pdf/fsev/fact2011nissanleaf.pdf

viewtopic.php?f=31&t=13265

Most interesting results, IMO:

~Identical ~22.7 kW use at ~70 mph at ~identical ambient temperatures, but looks like the 2011 LEAF has slightly higher efficiency than the FFE at lower speeds, after you adjust for ambient temps.

The FFE has considerably lower Overall Trip Efficiency, maybe due to the kW draw of its thermal management system?

Are FFE battery pack temperatures normally this high (~ 93F to 100 F) during charging?

2013 LEAF test results, showing both the MY 2013 improvements in driving and Overall Trip Efficiency (~6 kW charger) over the 2011 LEAF, and also the effects of lower ambient temps at constant speed, are here:

http://avt.inel.gov/pdf/fsev/fact2013nissanleaf.pdf

viewtopic.php?f=31&t=18555



interested in more details of testing parameters because their results are significantly below mine. Hard to believe the HUGE range difference between 45 and 60 mph test. something is wrong there
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Re: Official Ford Focus Electric Thread

Sun Mar 29, 2015 10:48 am

DaveinOlyWA wrote:
...interested in more details of testing parameters because their results are significantly below mine. Hard to believe the HUGE range difference between 45 and 60 mph test. something is wrong there

What details don't you see?

If you are referring to 2013 LEAF results, the battery and ambient temperature variation explains much of the "HUGE range difference between 45 and 60 mph test".

See the footnotes:

..2. During the 45 mph range test, the maximum battery temperature was 23 °C and the average ambient temperature was 21 °C. During the post-test charge, the maximum battery temperature was 25 °C, and the average ambient temperature was 18 °C.
3. During the 60 mph range test, the maximum battery temperature was 18 °C and the average ambient temperature was 14 °C. During the post-test charge, the maximum battery temperature was 27 °C, and the average ambient temperature was 25 °C...


On-topic thread:

http://avt.inel.gov/pdf/fsev/fact2013nissanleaf.pdf
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