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Re: EV, PHEV specs/dimensions compared

Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:55 pm

I've updated the specs with Smart ED & Accord Plug-In. Also some other updates, like new Leaf & Model S prices.
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Re: EV, PHEV specs/dimensions compared

Thu May 23, 2013 8:53 am

Table/spreadsheet needs to be updated.

MSRP $19,185 ($26,685 before $7.5K) for the table.
I subtracted out the $810 from the MSRP listed below because it states: "includes $810 destination freight charge"

Spark-EV Charging Out of Chevy Showrooms for $19,995
Press release: http://media.gm.com/content/media/us/en ... icing.html
DETROIT. – Chevrolet announced today a low mileage lease on the new 2014 Spark-EV 1LT for as low as $199 per month* for 36 months, with $999 due at lease signing including security deposit (tax, title, license dealer fees extra), making the vehicle one of the most affordable EVs on the market.
Spark-EV’s Manufacturer’s Suggested Retail Price starts at $27,495 [LEAF S $28,800] – as low as $19,995 net of the full federal tax credit which ranges from $0 to $7,500 – and includes $810 destination freight charge. Depending on their tax situation, California Spark-EV owners may also qualify for other state and local tax credits and incentives ranging from $0 to $2,500, potentially reducing the price to $17,495. Spark-EV owners in California are also eligible for High-Occupancy Vehicle, or carpool lane, access. <snip>
7.[9]** seconds (or less per articles) that is ~second faster than Volt and LEAF !! (400 lb-ft actual motor shaft torque per - viewtopic.php?p=288400#p288400)

[** I typed this initially from memory at 7.6 but it is 7.9 or less. See this quote:
Chuck Russell, vehicle chief engineer for the Spark-EV and the Chevy Volt, went one better, telling Edmunds: “We’ve said ‘under 8 seconds’ zero to 60 for the Spark-EV — and it won’t be 7.9.”
via article: General Motors Begins First U.S. Production of Electric Motors for 2014 Spark-EV
http://www.edmunds.com/car-news/general ... rk-ev.html ]
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Re: EV, PHEV specs/dimensions compared

Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:00 am

This may make it easier to do your update for the Spark, Fiat.

http://insideevs.com/plug-in-compact-co ... fiat-500e/

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Re: EV, PHEV specs/dimensions compared

Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:23 am

I don't have any compliance EVs yet (ActiveE, Rav4, Fit, Spark, Fiat 500).

If someone can help me out with these, it will be great (the spreadsheet is in the first post).
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Re: EV, PHEV specs/dimensions compared

Tue Jun 04, 2013 12:10 pm

evnow wrote:I don't have any compliance EVs yet (ActiveE, Rav4, Fit, Spark, Fiat 500).

If someone can help me out with these, it will be great (the spreadsheet is in the first post).


Here are the technical specs for the ActiveE: http://altcarexpo.com/vehicles/ActiveE_TechSpecs.pdf

Also,

The EPA rating is 94mpc.

Seating 4
Headroom (Front) 37.9
Headroom (Back) 37.1
Legroom (Front) 41.4
Legroom (Back) 32.0
Shoulder Room (Front) 54.0
Shoulder Room (Back) 53.4

I think that gives you all you need.

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Re: EV, PHEV specs/dimensions compared

Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:21 pm

Updated with i3 pricing and small changes in specs.
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Re: EV, PHEV specs/dimensions compared

Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:57 pm

evnow wrote:I've updated the specs with Smart ED & Accord Plug-In. Also some other updates, like new Leaf & Model S prices.


I think you need to add an i3 REx in the PHEV column also. The weight, price & EPA EV range will be different. You have the engine power listed in the column now, but if it has the REx engine, then the weight you have is wrong. Maybe nitpicking, but the REx really almost makes it a different car don't you think?

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Re: EV, PHEV specs/dimensions compared

Fri Aug 02, 2013 4:58 am

TomMoloughney wrote:
evnow wrote:I've updated the specs with Smart ED & Accord Plug-In. Also some other updates, like new Leaf & Model S prices.


I think you need to add an i3 REx in the PHEV column also. The weight, price & EPA EV range will be different. You have the engine power listed in the column now, but if it has the REx engine, then the weight you have is wrong. Maybe nitpicking, but the REx really almost makes it a different car don't you think?


I agree with Tom. The i3 with/without the REx really are two different cars when you get to this level of specs.
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Re: EV, PHEV specs/dimensions compared

Fri Aug 02, 2013 10:17 am

The chart still shows the Tesla S's weight as low as 3,825 lbs.

With the cancellation of the 40 kWh Tesla S battery pack, are any S models available that weigh significantly less than the widely reported ~4,650 lbs?

As per Tesla's specs for the 60 kWh model:

http://www.teslamotors.com/models/specs

I thought the weight of the 60 kWh battery back was reported to be nearly the same as the 85 kWh pack.

Anyone know the actual weight difference between the two battery packs and the two available S models?
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Re: EV, PHEV specs/dimensions compared

Fri Aug 02, 2013 10:46 am

I believe the 60 is about 180lbs less than the 85. I think a 200lb weight difference is all that is allowed to avoid separate crash testing, which would explain why the 60 doesn't weigh less than it does.

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