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Re: Tesla Model X

Sat Oct 28, 2017 11:07 am

Granted, it's an early car, with lots of miles, but that doesn't excuse charging ~$140 k (?) for a POS like this.

Model X P90DL (24) issues after 15 months and 120k km/75k mi


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqQet8DBJjI
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Re: Tesla Model X

Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:31 pm

I just realized that for https://www.consumerreports.org/car-rel ... able-cars/, updated Oct 19, 2017, Model X was dead last in reliability.

For the version release Oct 24, 2016 at https://web.archive.org/web/20161025075 ... able-cars/, Model X was in the middle of the pack of the 10 least reliable cars, 5 vehicles were worst w/the Escalade being dead last.

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Re: Tesla Model X

Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:36 am

cwerdna wrote:I just realized that for https://www.consumerreports.org/car-rel ... able-cars/, updated Oct 19, 2017, Model X was dead last in reliability.

For the version release Oct 24, 2016 at https://web.archive.org/web/20161025075 ... able-cars/, Model X was in the middle of the pack of the 10 least reliable cars, 5 vehicles were worst w/the Escalade being dead last.


Guess some people like Musk were so completely immersed in the suspended reality of the Movie World that they were convinced Gull Wing Doors were reliable. You can thank a well known Movie Trilogy for the X issues. ;)
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Re: Tesla Model X

Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:24 am

scottf200 wrote:
DaveinOlyWA wrote:WOW! This car probably saved your life and prevented any serious injuries to your Son!
I think so and come to grips with that every time I see these pictures and think about what has transpired since then. My eye is in pretty tough shape but I'm thankful I am home, walking around, communicating with family and friends, and doing other normal things ... vs being in a hospital bed ... or worse!

Scott,

I rarely read the Telsa threads, so I had no idea about your accident. So sorry to hear about your injuries and so glad that your son escaped harm. Sending you positive, healing thoughts! Hang in there, brother.
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Re: Tesla Model X

Sun Nov 12, 2017 10:55 am

If TSLA wasn't already approaching Terminal Decline:

viewtopic.php?p=510889#p510889

More fail videos like this would probably be enough to kill it...

Tesla Model X with frost, what fails to operate?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... ZIbU5Xtk40
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Re: Tesla Model X

Sun Nov 12, 2017 3:22 pm

edatoakrun wrote:If TSLA wasn't already approaching Terminal Decline:
Decline? What decline?
I drove my X down I-5 last night for about 120 miles on AutoPilot. The latest SW update was a significant improvement, handling even the winding Grapevine with ease. It was actually a lot of fun. My X just gets better and better as do all Teslas with these OTA updates.
Plus by this time next week, I expect the new 40-stall Supercharger in Kettleman City to be up and running. This place was put together really fast. Complete with a Tesla lounge area, bathrooms etc. Looked really nice and is in the perfect location for me to do a one-stop SoCal-NorCal drive in my Model 3 LR.

I see no declining nor even reclining by Tesla.

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Re: Tesla Model X

Mon Dec 18, 2017 6:58 pm

For those who love to see expensive vehicles get abused and incur $1,000s of dollars in damage, Bjorn Nyland takes his Model X for some winter off-roading sans chains: https://insideevs.com/bjorn-nyland-ruins-tesla-model-x-winter-off-roading-video/

(un?)intentionally demonstrating why an AWD CUV isn't a 4WD SUV or Jeep.
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Re: Tesla Model X

Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:13 pm

GRA wrote:For those who love to see expensive vehicles get abused and incur $1,000s of dollars in damage, Bjorn Nyland takes his Model X for some winter off-roading sans chains: https://insideevs.com/bjorn-nyland-ruins-tesla-model-x-winter-off-roading-video/

(un?)intentionally demonstrating why a CUV isn't an SUV or Jeep.

Even more horrifying than watching an X floundering when driven off-pavement, is watching a well-cared-for 2016 Model X depreciate while driven on-pavement...

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This Model X has free unlimited access to the Tesla Supercharger network, which means that you can charge for free at nearly 450 locations throughout the U.S. with more on the way. New Teslas have limitations on the amount of charging you can get for free...

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Re: Tesla Model X

Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:26 pm

edatoakrun wrote:
GRA wrote:For those who love to see expensive vehicles get abused and incur $1,000s of dollars in damage, Bjorn Nyland takes his Model X for some winter off-roading sans chains: https://insideevs.com/bjorn-nyland-ruins-tesla-model-x-winter-off-roading-video/

(un?)intentionally demonstrating why a CUV isn't an SUV or Jeep.

Even more horrifying than watching an X floundering when driven off-pavement, is watching a well-cared-for 2016 Model X depreciate while driven on-pavement...

Winning bid:US $90,101.00 <snip>

Seems like pretty typical depreciation for a luxury vehicle. Even much less expensive cars lose about 11% of their value as soon as they're driven off the lot, and 25% after one year. I see luxury vehicles used in businesses are allowed to depreciate them 35% for the first year, and this is about 37.8%, so seems in line. If you're worried about depreciation, don't buy a new car.
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Re: Tesla Model X

Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:36 pm

Just became aware that Edmunds had a wrap-up on their long-term '16 Model X.

https://www.edmunds.com/tesla/model-x/2 ... ap-up.html

Not surprisingly, under Maintenance & Repairs:
We learned something about Tesla maintenance from owning a Model S: There can be a lot of it. The general theme will feel familiar. During 20 months of ownership, our Model X went in for service seven times, spent 19 days out of commission, and had a total of 32 issues addressed.

The laundry list is there. They put on just shy of 25K miles.

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