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Re: Tesla Model X

Mon Oct 03, 2016 9:23 am

17K miles on my X in 7 months. Headed on another roadtrip soon that will add another 1.5K or so. Hope to get v8 while on the roadtrip so I can experience the difference going there vs coming back. I probably have 13K AutoSteer/Pilot miles under my belt. Fantastic AS/P experience.

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Re: Tesla Model X

Sat Oct 08, 2016 8:17 am

Maybe Telsa's new slogan for the X will be, the ~same range as a Chevy Bolt for more than twice the price...

Farewell Tesla Model X 60D (60 kWh), you’ve become a rare breed

It wasn’t long ago when Tesla announced that it would lower the entry point of the Model X by making available a 60 kWh battery pack...

However, just four months after the announcement was first made, and weeks after a handful of Model X 60D vehicles were delivered, Tesla has removed the 60 kWh option from the Model X online Design Studio. In its place as the new entry level variant is the Model X 75D, with a base price of $85,500 or $10,000 over the previous 60D....

http://www.teslarati.com/tesla-model-x- ... continued/
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Re: Tesla Model X

Sun Oct 09, 2016 7:28 am

TonyWilliams wrote:
dgpcolorado wrote: They needed some help with efficient Supercharging theory (driving at 85 is not the fastest way to make a trip!)


I beg to differ. Here's my comparisons with Superchargers 125 miles apart with 120kW available, burning the battery down to 10% SOC:

SPEED ------------------55mph --------- 90mph

CONSUMPTION - 3.8miles/kWh --- 2.0miles/kWh

kWh BURNED ----- 32.9kWh ----------62.5kWh

TRAVEL TIME ------- 2.3 hours ------ 1.4 hours

CHARGE TIME------ 0.4hours -------- 0.8 hours


Total Time Enroute -- 2.7 hours ---- 2.2 hours every 125 miles


must be nice. I know people who change lanes roughly 20-25 times PER MILE and complain because they can't average 70 mph...
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Re: Tesla Model X

Sun Oct 09, 2016 10:06 am

DaveinOlyWA wrote:must be nice. I know people who change lanes roughly 20-25 times PER MILE and complain because they can't average 70 mph...
This is where autopilot is going to improve traffic patterns.
I so want adaptive cruise control on my next vehicle.
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Re: Tesla Model X

Sun Oct 09, 2016 11:27 am

smkettner wrote:
DaveinOlyWA wrote:must be nice. I know people who change lanes roughly 20-25 times PER MILE and complain because they can't average 70 mph...
This is where autopilot is going to improve traffic patterns.


Sure!

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Re: Tesla Model X

Sun Oct 09, 2016 11:34 am

smkettner wrote:
DaveinOlyWA wrote:must be nice. I know people who change lanes roughly 20-25 times PER MILE and complain because they can't average 70 mph...
This is where autopilot is going to improve traffic patterns.
I so want adaptive cruise control on my next vehicle.


not only would it be cheaper but it would be much more profitable to enforce the laws stating travel right except to pass...
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Re: Tesla Model X

Sun Oct 09, 2016 1:08 pm

DaveinOlyWA wrote:
smkettner wrote:
DaveinOlyWA wrote:must be nice. I know people who change lanes roughly 20-25 times PER MILE and complain because they can't average 70 mph...
This is where autopilot is going to improve traffic patterns.
I so want adaptive cruise control on my next vehicle.


not only would it be cheaper but it would be much more profitable to enforce the laws stating travel right except to pass...
If the freeway is packed pretty solid in all five lanes it is the person darting in and out that causes more disruption.

Worst is when they cut off a big truck that takes several miles to get back up to speed.

Out on the open road I agree with passing and getting back over. Not going to happen on a 10+ lane packed freeway around here.

Yes I believe autopilot will help the person's response time to speed up when traffic permits.
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Re: Tesla Model X

Sat Oct 15, 2016 9:09 pm

Nissan LEAF Has Way More Cargo Room Than Tesla Model X – Video:
http://insideevs.com/nissan-leaf-way-cargo-room-tesla-model-x-video/

The problem appears to the be 2nd row seats that can't (?) be removed nor folded down, which limits how long an item can be to fit completely inside. Interestingly, one of the comments pointed out http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=37423&id=37067&id=37463 which (under the Spec tab) shows the Model X having less passenger and luggage volume than the Prius v wagon.

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Re: Tesla Model X

Sun Oct 16, 2016 3:42 pm

cwerdna wrote:Nissan LEAF Has Way More Cargo Room Than Tesla Model X – Video:
http://insideevs.com/nissan-leaf-way-cargo-room-tesla-model-x-video/

The problem appears to the be 2nd row seats that can't (?) be removed nor folded down, which limits how long an item can be to fit completely inside. Interestingly, one of the comments pointed out http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=37423&id=37067&id=37463 which (under the Spec tab) shows the Model X having less passenger and luggage volume than the Prius v wagon.

One interesting thing about the video is the claim by Tesla that a 5-passenger version is being developed which will eliminate the problem, presumably by allowing the 2nd row seats to fold. The lack of folding 2nd row seats was one of the major mistakes Tesla made in designing the X, opting for 'wow' over utility.
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Re: Tesla Model X

Sun Oct 16, 2016 11:35 pm

When the Model X was introduced, Musk derided the Honda Odyssey as part of the reveal. Having seen the car in person I wonder if they wouldn't have done better to take inspiration from the HO, as the third row seating is useless and there is no cargo versatility. Frankly I don't know why anyone would even consider it.
To paraphrase Lloyd Bentsen, Honda Odyssey was a friend of mine, and you sir are no Honda Odyssey.
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