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Re: Official Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV SUV thread

Wed Sep 14, 2016 1:08 pm

edatoakrun wrote:
GRA wrote:Via IEVS:
Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV Again Delayed In US Until Summer 2017, Another Weak Excuse Given
http://insideevs.com/mitsubishi-outland ... er-2017/...

Not surprising.

Mitsubishi can sell all the Outlander PHEV's it can produce at a profit outside the USA, and this model is in fact in second place world-wide so far this year in PHEV sales.

http://ev-sales.blogspot.com/2016/07/wo ... ition.html
As I posted elsewhere, in Britain, the Outlander is currently outselling the Nissan LEAF by a nearly 2:1 ratio.

Perhaps their excuse for not selling it here is that they already sell all the Outalanders they can build, but it seems they must be missing a big opportunity here.
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Re: Official Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV SUV thread

Wed Sep 14, 2016 5:01 pm

RegGuheert wrote:
edatoakrun wrote:

Not surprising.

Mitsubishi can sell all the Outlander PHEV's it can produce at a profit outside the USA, and this model is in fact in second place world-wide so far this year in PHEV sales.

http://ev-sales.blogspot.com/2016/07/wo ... ition.html
As I posted elsewhere, in Britain, the Outlander is currently outselling the Nissan LEAF by a nearly 2:1 ratio.

Perhaps their excuse for not selling it here is that they already sell all the Outalanders they can build, but it seems they must be missing a big opportunity here.

$62.1k base MSRP X5 xDrive40es are selling quite well here (876 last month; ranked 7th among all PEVs), and more expensive XC90 T8s and Cayenne S-E Hybrids are doing okay, typically 150-200/month. The first company to offer an affordable AWD PHEV CUV here, unless it's a total disaster, will clean up. The A3 e-tron Sportback's the closest to that now, and although it lacks cargo space with the seats up and AWD, it's typically selling about 350/month; there's now one in my (walking distance) neighborhood, along with three LEAFs, a Volt 1, PiP and a Fusion Energi. It's sad that GM didn't take advantage of the unexpected 3 year window that Mitsubishi gave them, and haven't produced the Voltec-powered small AWD CUV many of us have been asking for since the Volt was first introduced.
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Re: Official Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV SUV thread

Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:27 pm

Via IEVS:
2017 Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV Gets Performance Upgrade, Slightly More Range
http://insideevs.com/mitsubishi-improve ... nder-phev/

In 2017, Mitsubishi says it has “extensively revised” the utility vehicle by introducing some new features, performance additions, and wait for it … improving the all-electric range by one more mile!

    all-electric range increases from up to 32 miles to 33 miles (53 km) via its 12 kWh battery (NEDC rating -think about ~22-23 miles (35-37 km) real world/EPA equivalent

    a new EV priority mode is actuated by a new switch to allows the driver to operate the vehicle in EV mode – without the engine starting (provided of course that the battery is charged enough to power the motor). This feature will extend the non-engine operation to more situations compared with the traditional modes.

    performance: 0-62mph (100 km/h) in 11 seconds, up to 244lb/ft of torque

    towing capacity is ample at 1,500kg

    improved regenerative braking – steering wheel paddles to better adjust regeneration

    the drive battery output has been improved by 10% (thus keeping the Outlander PHEV in all-electric mode more often – and adding more capably)

    faster DC CHAdeMO charging to 80% (in 25 minutes instead 30 minutes)

    new Cool Silver color option

    CO2 emissions have also been lowered by 1g/km to 41g/km, with an average weighted fuel consumption of 166 mpg – a 6.4% increase versus the previous version

    Safety features have also been further developed and improved on the 2017 Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV. Forward Collision Mitigation technology, standard on the Mitsubishi Outlander 4hs and 5hs versions, now features for Pedestrian Detection for added safety, while Blind Spot Warning and Rear Cross Traffic Alert have both been introduced on the 4h variant to assist the driver when reversing out of a space. For example, if traffic is coming from the right, the icon located on the right-hand mirror will light up, accompanied by an audio alert. . . .

Now, if they'd just bring the damned thing here.
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Re: Official Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV SUV thread

Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:20 pm

GRA wrote:Now, if they'd just bring the damned thing here.

+1 the whole thing with Mitsubishi delaying the PHEV for N. America only cements my idea that Mitsubishi is a lost cause, I'd really really like it to work but at this point have almost 0% confidence they'll actually get anything done before they go belly up :( and my feeling is not alone, lots of Mitsubishi hate on some of the EV forums for jerking people around for going on what, 5 years of unfulfilled promises!
I was reading an article the other day that Mitsubishi was going to pull out of Russia! of all places, after apparently only selling a handfull of their PHEV Outlanders and losing money trying. Yes trying to sell a PHEV in a country where gas is plentiful and the cost for the PHEV is considerably more than a gas burning Outlander, great move Mitsubishi :roll:
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Re: Official Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV SUV thread

Thu Jan 26, 2017 12:53 am

jjeff wrote:+1 the whole thing with Mitsubishi delaying the PHEV for N. America only cements my idea that Mitsubishi is a lost cause, I'd really really like it to work but at this point have almost 0% confidence they'll actually get anything done before they go belly up :(

I doubt Mitsubishi Motors will go belly up. Nissan owns a controlling stake in them now: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mitsu ... SKCN12K0DX and http://visionnissanmitsubishi.com/.

But, it's possible MMNA (http://www.mitsubishicars.com/who-we-are/company-info) could get closed down.

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Re: Official Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV SUV thread

Sat Jan 28, 2017 2:24 pm

I'm sooo glad to see that Ukraine and Mitsubishi have their priorities straight - it's not as if either the country or the company have any more pressing issues to deal with:
Mitsubishi Motors to supply 635 Outlander PHEVs to National Police of Ukraine
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2017/01 ... ander.html

. . . These vehicles are to be delivered around July 2017.

The supply stems from an emissions trading agreement signed by a number of Japanese companies with the Government of Ukraine. As part of its policy to reduce CO2 and greenhouse gas emissions using the Green Investment Scheme under the Kyoto Protocol, the Ukrainian government will use the Outlander PHEVs as police vehicles. . . .
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Re: Official Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV SUV thread

Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:12 am

GRA wrote:I'm sooo glad to see that Ukraine and Mitsubishi have their priorities straight - it's not as if either the country or the company have any more pressing issues to deal with:
Mitsubishi Motors to supply 635 Outlander PHEVs to National Police of Ukraine
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2017/01 ... ander.html

. . . These vehicles are to be delivered around July 2017.

The supply stems from an emissions trading agreement signed by a number of Japanese companies with the Government of Ukraine. As part of its policy to reduce CO2 and greenhouse gas emissions using the Green Investment Scheme under the Kyoto Protocol, the Ukrainian government will use the Outlander PHEVs as police vehicles. . . .


Just because there are higher priorities doesn't mean that this is not a priority. I'm glad that they take the issue of their emissions into our single, shared atmosphere seriously as opposed to a certain other country.
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Re: Official Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV SUV thread

Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:01 pm

GetOffYourGas wrote:
GRA wrote:I'm sooo glad to see that Ukraine and Mitsubishi have their priorities straight - it's not as if either the country or the company have any more pressing issues to deal with: <snip>

Just because there are higher priorities doesn't mean that this is not a priority. I'm glad that they take the issue of their emissions into our single, shared atmosphere seriously as opposed to a certain other country.

I'd be a lot more impressed if Mitsubishi finally imported the Outlander into the U.S., a much larger market than Ukraine, which will have a far greater effect on GHGs.
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Re: Official Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV SUV thread

Tue May 30, 2017 7:11 pm

Follow-up, via GCC:
Mitsubishi Motors delivers 635 Outlander PHEVs to Ukranian police; largest PHEV fleet order yet for MMC
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2017/05 ... 6-mmc.html
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Re: Official Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV SUV thread

Sat Jul 22, 2017 12:51 pm

Well it's almost August......what do you think the chances the incompetent putzes at Mitsubishi will actually deliver the Outlander PHEV to N. America :roll:
http://www.myelectriccarforums.com/2016 ... in-august/
Or do you think they meant August 2018 ;)
edit:
Oh wait, it was supposed to be October........2016 :roll:
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