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Re: Official Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV SUV thread

Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:45 pm

Via IEVS:
2018 Outlander PHEV Now Listed On Mitsubishi’s U.S. Site – Build Your Own
https://insideevs.com/2018-outlander-phev-now-listed-on-mitsubishis-u-s-site/

Base model (SEL) MSRP starts at $34,595, upscale model (GT) starts at $40,295. Unfortunately, as with many other manufacturers, the safety upgrades (ACC, AEB, LDW etc.) are only available on the GT. Apparently those of us who don't want or need leather or premium sound are also unconcerned with our personal safety. :roll:
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Re: Official Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV SUV thread

Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:41 pm

GRA wrote:Via IEVS:
2018 Outlander PHEV Now Listed On Mitsubishi’s U.S. Site – Build Your Own
https://insideevs.com/2018-outlander-phev-now-listed-on-mitsubishis-u-s-site/

Base model (SEL) MSRP starts at $34,595, upscale model (GT) starts at $40,295. Unfrotunately, as with many other manufacturers, the safety upgrades (ACC, AEB, LDW etc.) are only available on the GT. Apparently those of us who don't want or need leather or premium sound are also unconcerned with our personal safety. :roll:


It's kind of ironic that Nissan seems to be the only company that understands this, and offers just about everything on the SV with cloth upholstery. I'm not sure how the sound system options work on the 2018 Leaf - you might have to tolerate a Premium one. ;-)
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Re: Official Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV SUV thread

Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:58 pm

Only 1500 lbs towing!
In Europe that’s 1500kg not pounds.

They wimped out in the US. Don’t know why.

We would have bought the Pacifica except that it doesn’t tow anything.

Thought the Mitsubishi was our only choice other than model x. Looks like there are no electric tow vehicles other than Tesla.

I seriously thought we were getting an outlander soon.
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Re: Official Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV SUV thread

Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:24 am

22 miles on a vehicle with 1/2 the battery capacity(12kWh) of the original Leaf(24kWh) which got what, 70 EPA? What an energy hog they've produced :(
Of course 25 MPG on gas is pretty abysmal too.....sounds like early 00s technology all around :lol:
Several years ago I may have been interested, but not anymore, at least they kept the price <$40k, $10k less than the Pacifica. Looks like I've got more years of waiting for a decent priced efficient BEV/PHEV SUV utility type vehicle :(
Now if Nissan would only get their head out of their *** and introduce a BEV NV-200 stateside, with something like a 40kWh battery that would get a 100+ mile range, now that I'd be into :) and no I don't need leather!
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Re: Official Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV SUV thread

Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:25 am

jjeff wrote:22 miles on a vehicle with 1/2 the battery capacity(12kWh) of the original Leaf(24kWh) which got what, 70 EPA? What an energy hog they've produced :(
Of course 25 MPG on gas is pretty abysmal too.....sounds like early 00s technology all around :lol:


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Re: Official Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV SUV thread

Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:04 pm

GetOffYourGas wrote:
jjeff wrote:22 miles on a vehicle with 1/2 the battery capacity(12kWh) of the original Leaf(24kWh) which got what, 70 EPA? What an energy hog they've produced :(
Of course 25 MPG on gas is pretty abysmal too.....sounds like early 00s technology all around :lol:


It's an SUV - that kind of efficiency comes with the territory (large, heavy, non-aerodynamic). No, we haven't figured out how to beat physics in the past decade.

I understand that, but there are several newer SUVs that get over the 30mpg on ICE, some upper mid 30s. And remember this isn't a large SUV but rather a small 5 passenger one that can only pull 1500 lbs.
25 mpg on a small SUV with a 4 cylinder ICE is really poor in this day and age, for comparison with a similar sized battery the large 6 passenger Chrysler Pacifica can get 30+ miles EV and better MGP on it's 6 cyl ICE, this thing is just an energy hog IMO, which makes little sense for something marketed towards people looking for an efficient green vehicle :?
Note I'm not too interested in a Pacifica either due to $40k+ cost but was hoping for an efficient somewhat basic SUV that wouldn't break the bank from Mitsubishi, they hit 2 of my 3 hopes, too bad efficiency was one of the more important points for me :(
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Re: Official Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV SUV thread

Mon Dec 11, 2017 6:50 pm

I believe 25 mpg for Outlander PHEV is combined (city and highway) while on gasoline.
jjeff wrote:I understand that, but there are several newer SUVs that get over the 30mpg on ICE, some upper mid 30s.

Can you name some which run on gasoline? How about non-hybrids? What is their combined mileage EPA rating? What about their AWD version since this vehicle is?

I suspect you're comparing apples to oranges (e.g. 25 mpg combined vs. some other SUV's highest number (e.g. highway))
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Re: Official Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV SUV thread

Mon Dec 11, 2017 6:53 pm

I think that the RAV 4 (non-hybrid) and Honda CR-V have combined numbers right around 30MPG, but probably slightly under - high twenties I'd guess.

EDIT: high twenties combined for the CRV, a bit higher with the turbo four, a bit lower with the NA four. The RAV 4 non-hybrid is a little lower.
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Re: Official Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV SUV thread

Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:29 pm

Via IEVS:
2018 Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV Arrives At U.S. Dealerships, Here’s One For $6,365 Below MSRP
https://insideevs.com/2018-mitsubishi-outlander-phev-arrives-u-s-dealerships-heres-one-6365-msrp/
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Re: Official Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV SUV thread

Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:08 pm

Per IEVS, 99 Outlander PHEVs were sold in the U.S. in December:
EV Sales Rise Again In December, With Tesla Leading The Pack
https://insideevs.com/ev-sales-rise-december-tesla-leading/
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