Zythryn wrote:Specifics, and prices are out now.
Decent prices, but enough of a cost to dissuade locals from clogging up supercharger stations.
And, even then, for some folks in high tiers of expensive utilities like PG&E, 20 cents/kWh is cheaper than the marginal cost to charge at home. Non-TOU plan of E1 (https://www.pge.com/tariffs/tm2/pdf/ELEC_SCHEDS_E-1.pdf) is 40 cents/kWh in tier 3. Many/most households w/an EV driven more than a short distance w/o PV will hit tier 3.
sendler2112 wrote:My provider in Syracuse NY actually ends up charging more for TOU electricity until you consume at an industrial scale. Makes no sense.
I don't think that Tesla's pricing will have much impact on Blink and other EV charging companies. Tesla isn't pricing to make a profit on DCFC but the other companies must do so. And Tesla isn't really competing directly with Blink and the others since EVs other than Teslas can't use Superchargers. It is true that Teslas won't likely use a Blink DCFC station if there is a Supercharger Station nearby, but the Bolt and other DCFC capable EVs may not have any other options if they want a fast charge.cwerdna wrote:Indeed re: prices. 20 cents/kWh for California is not bad. It's cheaper for DC FCing than ripoff EVgo w/o a monthly fee ($4.95 to start + 20 cents/minute) and Blink for DC FCing (59 cents/kWh for members here).
Heck, even Blink L2 is 49 cents/kwh. Hope this causes the above providers to be more price competitive.
Even in this scenario there is the time and convenience factor. Some people were willing to use Supercharger Stations when they were free of cost. Will they be as willing to spend the time and trouble to do so to save 20¢/kWh? Some perhaps, but others may go for the convenience of home charging, assuming they have that option. And I presume that most EV owners will choose a better rate plan if practical for their household usage pattern. Regardless, the incentive to camp out at Supercharger Stations is considerably reduced for cars on the new Tesla Supercharging rate plan, especially with the 40¢/minute idle fee.And, even then, for some folks in high tiers of expensive utilities like PG&E, 20 cents/kWh is cheaper than the marginal cost to charge at home. Non-TOU plan of E1 (https://www.pge.com/tariffs/tm2/pdf/ELEC_SCHEDS_E-1.pdf) is 40 cents/kWh in tier 3. Many/most households w/an EV driven more than a short distance w/o PV will hit tier 3.
dgpcolorado wrote:Tesla chose 400 kWh free per year because that would cover most owners' limited road trip needs. I find that interesting because I did 9000 miles of road trips in my first nine months! But I didn't get my car for urban commuting; I got it, in large part, for road trips.