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Re: Tesla Supercharger Network

Thu Dec 15, 2016 8:42 pm

GRA wrote:Non-SC (UC?), speaking of Baker: http://insideevs.com/evgo-installing-fi ... tation-us/

Yes, that's great news! CHAdeMO/CCS in Baker by June 2017. Unless Tesla installs an SC in Baker by late 2017 (the next cool season, when visiting Death Valley makes sense) we may find ourselves borrowing a Tesla CHAdeMO adapter for use in Baker.
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Re: Tesla Supercharger Network

Fri Dec 16, 2016 5:31 pm

As of yesterday evening, Groveland and Fish Camp, CA are both open, providing access to Yosemite from the west (120) and south-southwest (41)! Now we just need one in the Mariposa - El Portal area on 140, and 120 at Lee Vining (still); Mammoth's nice, but a bit too far.
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Re: Tesla Supercharger Network

Fri Dec 16, 2016 7:35 pm

Great news - Tesla is going to start charging a per-minute fee to owners who leave their cars parked at Superchargers after charging is complete! This should help relieve congestion at some key locations.

http://insideevs.com/tesla-takes-action ... r-hogging/
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Re: Tesla Supercharger Network

Sat Dec 17, 2016 9:37 am

@elonmusk
@TeslaMotors We are going to modify this so that people only pay a fee if most bays are occupied. If the site is basically deserted, no problem to park.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/810135528783937537

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Sat Dec 17, 2016 9:40 am

Rebel44 wrote:@elonmusk
@TeslaMotors We are going to modify this so that people only pay a fee if most bays are occupied. If the site is basically deserted, no problem to park.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/810135528783937537

"most bays", "basically deserted"... nice crisp policy
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Sat Dec 17, 2016 11:19 am

LTLFTcomposite wrote:
Rebel44 wrote:@elonmusk
@TeslaMotors We are going to modify this so that people only pay a fee if most bays are occupied. If the site is basically deserted, no problem to park.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/810135528783937537

"most bays", "basically deserted"... nice crisp policy



You don't park there for fun. You just don't get fined if it is not a big deal.
This proves only one thing: Tesla is not trying to make money on that.

As soon as somebody has to share a charger (not plug) then every minute will be fined.

If A1 A2 is unoccupied, B1 and C1 are charging. And you park for fun at D1. D2 is occupied,
then you don't pay. As soon as somebody occupies A you pay because next Tesla has no
way to choose full speed charging and has to share power.
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Re: Tesla Supercharger Network

Sat Dec 17, 2016 4:11 pm

Zythryn wrote:2017 map is up!

https://www.tesla.com/supercharger

Without checking every dot, on a quick look it appears to be mainly the 2016 map retitled, i.e. I-10/20, I-40, I-80, I-94, I-25, I-29 from I-94 to Winnipeg etc. all completed, plus some infill and a little bit of off-interstate expansion - looks like Alamosa and Salida on U.S. 285 in Colorado, plus maybe Walsenburg on I-25, and Kremmling on U.S. 40. Glacier will finally be semi-accessible, with an SC in the Kalispell - W. Glacier area (plus the three on I-25 in Helena, Great Falls and Shelby that were on the 2016 map), and Kayenta has also rolled over. Looks like there may be one coming around Payson, AZ too - I would have thought Globe and Show Low would also show up around the same time.
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Re: Tesla Supercharger Network

Sat Dec 17, 2016 4:28 pm

GRA wrote:
Zythryn wrote:2017 map is up!

https://www.tesla.com/supercharger

Without checking every dot, on a quick look it appears to be mainly the 2016 map retitled, i.e. I-10/20, I-40, I-80, I-94, I-25, I-29 to Winnipeg etc. all completed, plus some infill and a little bit of off-interstate expansion.


Not sure overall, in our area it is rather dramatic.
Two more SC in southern MN, the one in St. Cloud which is under construction. Outside of Fargo, there was nothing in ND on the 2016 map, the 2017 map has them spanning the state.
Another in Souix Falls SD, and one just north of Des Moines, making that trip sound on 35 much easier.

Of course, this is their stated goal. I wouldn't bet my life on any at this point. But it is good to see what the goal is.
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Re: Tesla Supercharger Network

Sat Dec 17, 2016 4:44 pm

Zythryn wrote:
GRA wrote:
Zythryn wrote:2017 map is up!

https://www.tesla.com/supercharger

Without checking every dot, on a quick look it appears to be mainly the 2016 map retitled, i.e. I-10/20, I-40, I-80, I-94, I-25, I-29 to Winnipeg etc. all completed, plus some infill and a little bit of off-interstate expansion.


Not sure overall, in our area it is rather dramatic.
Two more SC in southern MN, the one in St. Cloud which is under construction. Outside of Fargo, there was nothing in ND on the 2016 map, the 2017 map has them spanning the state.{/quote]

Nah, that's just I-94 from Billings to Fargo, which was on the '2016' (and '2015') maps. As I've been saying for the past couple of years that that section of I-94 should be the very last primary interstate in the contiguous 48 to be completed, I look forward to it making a return appearance on the '2018' map!


Zythryn wrote:Another in Souix Falls SD, and one just north of Des Moines, making that trip sound on 35 much easier.

Those two (the one N. of Des Moines looks like Ames) plus the one I'm guessing will be in Bethany, IA make more sense than I-94. Although if there were anything other than a Flying J in the vicinity of I-35 and U.S. 20, that would be a better choice than Ames. Actually, that's only 2 miles north of the U.S. 20 intersection, so it'd still be a better choice .

Zythryn wrote:Of course, this is their stated goal. I wouldn't bet my life on any at this point. But it is good to see what the goal is.

Goals are great, and I look forward to the day when Tesla achieves more than 80% of theirs. At least they're over 70% now.
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