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Re: Tesla Supercharger Network

Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:38 pm

IssacZachary wrote:A charging station in Poncha Springs! Maybe you should work for Tesla because you could probably sell people like me those cars! I've been hoping for a normal L2 station there for my Leaf. Now I'll be going by there clear to Salida and then look back and realize that had I a Tesla I could turn there and continue, either north or south, without going clear to Salida first and then back.

On our recent trip to CO and WY, we spent our first night in Gunnison, CO, your beautiful home, where we charged our Model S 85 on a "50 amp" outlet at the KOA. Basically, we left the Grand Junction Superchargers with about 90% charge and had about 100 miles of range left when we arrived in Gunnison. We got a full charge overnight, left early in the morning, drove over Monarch Pass (above 11,000'), and spent the day in Colorado Springs but skipped the Superchargers there. Only when we reached Denver did we need to stop at another Supercharger before heading up near Rocky Mountain Nat'l Park for that night.

Driving a Tesla through Colorado's mountains was a wonderful experience thanks to the silent, instant climbing power and the lack of range anxiety. That wouldn't have been the case without the Supercharger network.
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Re: Tesla Supercharger Network

Thu Sep 07, 2017 12:45 am

abasile wrote:
IssacZachary wrote:A charging station in Poncha Springs! Maybe you should work for Tesla because you could probably sell people like me those cars! I've been hoping for a normal L2 station there for my Leaf. Now I'll be going by there clear to Salida and then look back and realize that had I a Tesla I could turn there and continue, either north or south, without going clear to Salida first and then back.

On our recent trip to CO and WY, we spent our first night in Gunnison, CO, your beautiful home, where we charged our Model S 85 on a "50 amp" outlet at the KOA. Basically, we left the Grand Junction Superchargers with about 90% charge and had about 100 miles of range left when we arrived in Gunnison. We got a full charge overnight, left early in the morning, drove over Monarch Pass (above 11,000'), and spent the day in Colorado Springs but skipped the Superchargers there. Only when we reached Denver did we need to stop at another Supercharger before heading up near Rocky Mountain Nat'l Park for that night.

Driving a Tesla through Colorado's mountains was a wonderful experience thanks to the silent, instant climbing power and the lack of range anxiety. That wouldn't have been the case without the Supercharger network.

Also at 11,000ft you don't lose power like you do in a naturally aspirated ICEV when you drive an electric.

I've been both to Grand Junction and Colorado Springs and even Denver in my Leaf. But of course I have to make many more stops and only get to charge off of L2 or L1. Hopefully I'll inherit $35,000 and be able to get a Model 3 some time soon.
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Thu Sep 07, 2017 6:30 am

IssacZachary wrote:I've been both to Grand Junction and Colorado Springs and even Denver in my Leaf. But of course I have to make many more stops and only get to charge off of L2 or L1. Hopefully I'll inherit $35,000 and be able to get a Model 3 some time soon.

That's dedication! Before getting our used Tesla, we also did a number of longer, regional trips in our LEAF, including a trip to the Central Coast above San Luis Obispo in April 2012 before CHAdeMO stations were available. There's still some adventure in using the Tesla in remote areas away from the Superchargers, but there's almost no place you can't visit if you're willing to charge in RV campsites (and/or stay at hotels with destination charging, though we're more inclined toward camping when the weather permits).

My only advice would be to keep driving your LEAF and patiently saving your money toward a used, longer-range EV.
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Thu Sep 07, 2017 8:48 am

One of the main advantages that the Model 3 will have over the Bolt and Leaf 2 is access to the Telsa Supercharger network. That is a huge plus and a true long distance game changer IMHO.
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Re: Tesla Supercharger Network

Fri Sep 08, 2017 10:56 pm

TomT wrote:One of the main advantages that the Model 3 will have over the Bolt and Leaf 2 is access to the Telsa Supercharger network. That is a huge plus and a true long distance game changer IMHO.


And let's also mention the active traction battery cooling that the Bolt and Tesla have while charging etc. Leaf does not have that either...
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Sat Sep 09, 2017 7:08 am

Evoforce wrote:
TomT wrote:One of the main advantages that the Model 3 will have over the Bolt and Leaf 2 is access to the Telsa Supercharger network. That is a huge plus and a true long distance game changer IMHO.


And let's also mention the active traction battery cooling that the Bolt and Tesla have while charging etc. Leaf does not have that either...

How warm does the Bolt or Tesla keep their packs? All summer I have 5 temp bars with an occasional 6 with the Leaf but in the winter there are days I never get more than 1 or 2 temp bars and that makes it charge much slower. Right now I'm getting 4 bars in the mornings.
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Sat Sep 09, 2017 7:20 am

Back related to the subject of this thread...

Past few days have been pretty active.

https://supercharge.info/
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Sat Sep 09, 2017 2:21 pm

scottf200 wrote:Back related to the subject of this thread...

Past few days have been pretty active.

https://supercharge.info/
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I'll just note again that none of the above sites are officially open yet, lest someone is taking a trip and counting on them. They've been reported used by one or more customers, but could be shut off. However, the one near Green Bay that is officially open is called "Howard" by Tesla, and it is separate from the Green Bay SC which they also have on their list - whether this is a replacement for or will be in addition to that one is unknown, but they do show as two distinct sites on Tesla's own SC map. Tesla is also still calling the "Hermitage" SC "W. Middlesex"; its location is slightly closer to the latter than the former, but I don't know where the jurisdictional boundaries are.
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Re: Tesla Supercharger Network

Mon Sep 11, 2017 10:20 am

Tesla will start rolling out smaller, easier to install superchargers in more urban centers.

https://www.tesla.com/en_CA/blog/superc ... edirect=no

These will have a max charge rate of 75kW, but will not be affected if two Tesla's are charging at the same time next to each other.
We shall have to see if they can deploy these as quickly, but I like the fact they continue to adapt and make changes.
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Re: Tesla Supercharger Network

Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:04 pm

GRA wrote:End of June summary. 7 U.S. SCs opened last month, making 32 for the year and 372 total: Victor, NY (6/1; I-90 near Rochester);
I must've missed this, as I was waiting for the Rochester one to open. I only noticed it yesterday on the in-car SC listing.

Just now I noticed that Tesla is showing a SC open in Boston at the Pru, which is funny because I just parked there on Friday night for a Red Sox game and didn't know it even existed (I didn't even plug-in at the regular L2s because... well, I just didn't need to charge). It's listed as 'up to 72kW'.

supercharge.info isn't showing the new Boston SC yet. Tesla is showing 6 other "in Boston" SCs (presumably the 75kW units), all 'Target opening by end of 2018'.
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