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Re: Tesla Supercharger Network

Thu Sep 06, 2018 1:36 pm

I downloaded charger information from the AFDC website (highly recommended !), filtered the data to Tesla and CHAdeMO and grouped by year.
This Google spreadsheet has the raw data I used
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... 1648882880
Those who want to play can make a spreadsheet copy.

The total number of plugs are not too different between CHAdeMO and Tesla -- about 4000 for the former and ~ 5000 for Tesla. The Tesla trend is well depicted; the CHAdeMO is not because 3/4 of the plugs do not have the installation date. The pessimistic reading is that CHAdeMO got off to a great start early this decade and has dropped to a trickle in the last few years. I think this is about right but unfortunately the AFDC data cannot confirm the impression. The kind folks at the DOE do mention that reporting of installation data with number of plugs has been mandatory since 2014. This gives me more confidence in the data from 2014 onwards.

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Re: Tesla Supercharger Network

Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:11 pm

The much needed SC in Ft,. Stockton, TX, on I-10 between Van Horn and Ozona, finally started construction on Sept. 4th after being in permit status since Dec. 1st, 2016. Hopes are that the valuable Pecos, TX SC (now 313 days in permit status) on I-20 between Midland and Van Horn will also start construction soon.
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Re: Tesla Supercharger Network

Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:49 pm

EVDRIVER wrote:
jlv wrote:
paulgipe wrote:The Supercharger network is a major and unrecognized strategic advantage that Tesla has over other EV vendors. And it is a smart marketing expense.

Nice write-up. My only minor complaint is the use of the word unrecognized above.



It is recognized by owners and that's about it in practical terms. The general non-EV pubic has little awareness of it and the advantages.

I've also noticed that hyenas are generally unaware of the Supercharger network. C'est la vie.
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Re: Tesla Supercharger Network

Sat Sep 15, 2018 2:12 pm

GRA wrote:The much needed SC in Ft,. Stockton, TX, on I-10 between Van Horn and Ozona, finally started construction on Sept. 4th after being in permit status since Dec. 1st, 2016. Hopes are that the valuable Pecos, TX SC (now 313 days in permit status) on I-20 between Midland and Van Horn will also start construction soon.
Interesting news about Fort Stockton. That has been a glaring hole in I-10 for a long time, as you know. Wonder what caused the delay?
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Re: Tesla Supercharger Network

Sat Sep 15, 2018 4:40 pm

dgpcolorado wrote:Interesting news about Fort Stockton. That has been a glaring hole in I-10 for a long time, as you know. Wonder what caused the delay?

All sorts of musings on that at TMC, but no hard info AFAIA. After Pecos, Wichita Falls is the most glaring SC lack in Texas, and Tesla's been claiming that they would build there for I think it's two years now. I still have no idea why they built Childress and did nothing about W.F., which is both more useful and more necessary.
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Re: Tesla Supercharger Network

Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:25 pm

Pecos is now reasonably confirmed as being under construction.
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Re: Tesla Supercharger Network

Fri Oct 05, 2018 9:50 am

GRA wrote:
dgpcolorado wrote:Interesting news about Fort Stockton. That has been a glaring hole in I-10 for a long time, as you know. Wonder what caused the delay?

All sorts of musings on that at TMC, but no hard info AFAIA. After Pecos, Wichita Falls is the most glaring SC lack in Texas, and Tesla's been claiming that they would build there for I think it's two years now. I still have no idea why they built Childress and did nothing about W.F., which is both more useful and more necessary.


There have been proposed stations in Seattle area going on two years now that have still not broken ground...
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Re: Tesla Supercharger Network

Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:45 am

DaveinOlyWA wrote:There have been proposed stations in Seattle area going on two years now that have still not broken ground...
Yes, Seattle and San Diego are large metro areas that have been underserved by Supercharger Stations. Two years ago I had to find L2 charging in the Kirkland area to be able to get back to Centralia. It is a bit better now, although Bellevue being completed would be a big help.

San Diego has finally showed some progress with the opening of the A Street urban Superchargers downtown and the recent opening of 20 urban Supercharger stalls in Carlsbad the week before last. I believe I was the first out-of-state car to charge at Carlsbad, on the day after opening:
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^ Supercharging in Carlsbad CA on 28 September 2018

The first San Diego Supercharger Station in Sorrento Valley (Qualcomm) remains jammed nearly all day (a line of ten cars was reported yesterday) but there are now other options for Supercharging in San Diego County, at long last.
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Re: Tesla Supercharger Network

Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:23 am

Yeah, its a real head scratcher. Sales here are probably #2 behind CA so the demand is overwhelming here. Centralia doesn't seem "too bad" (with 20 plugs, that helps although I have seen them packed on weekends) but North and East of Seattle, SC's are jammed all the time.

Adding 2 locations of 10+ plugs each would barely make a dent.
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Re: Tesla Supercharger Network

Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:20 am

Just went to the new SC in Daly City, CA. Not on the map yet as open but it is and looks like 45-50 plus stalls! I think this is larger than Kettleman City.

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