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Re: Thread for suggested locations for Nissan Charge Station

Sun Aug 31, 2014 7:56 pm

cwerdna wrote:
TaylorSFGuy wrote:I would suggest replacing a couple of the Blink Level 2 units at the Hampton Inn, Dupont WA with a QC. That is about half way between Fife and Tumwater and would fill a gap south of Seattle.

You really want Blink?

If they're non-networked, Clipper Creek would be the way to go. If networked, I think Chargepoint would be a better choice. Their hardware seems to be more reliable and it seems like hardware of their network is repaired more quickly.


I proposed Blink because there are 4 level 2 units there now. No other reason.
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Re: Thread for suggested locations for Nissan Charge Station

Sun Aug 31, 2014 8:03 pm

TaylorSFGuy wrote:
cwerdna wrote:
TaylorSFGuy wrote:I would suggest replacing a couple of the Blink Level 2 units at the Hampton Inn, Dupont WA with a QC. That is about half way between Fife and Tumwater and would fill a gap south of Seattle.

You really want Blink?

If they're non-networked, Clipper Creek would be the way to go. If networked, I think Chargepoint would be a better choice. Their hardware seems to be more reliable and it seems like hardware of their network is repaired more quickly.


I proposed Blink because there are 4 level 2 units there now. No other reason.

Whoops! I misread your post thinking that you wanted Blink L2 EVSEs. My bad. :oops:

Neither Clipper Creek nor Chargepoint make any DC FCs.

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Re: Thread for suggested locations for Nissan Charge Station

Sun Aug 31, 2014 8:21 pm

cwerdna wrote:
TaylorSFGuy wrote:
cwerdna wrote:You really want Blink?

If they're non-networked, Clipper Creek would be the way to go. If networked, I think Chargepoint would be a better choice. Their hardware seems to be more reliable and it seems like hardware of their network is repaired more quickly.


I proposed Blink because there are 4 level 2 units there now. No other reason.

Whoops! I misread your post thinking that you wanted Blink L2 EVSEs. My bad. :oops:

Neither Clipper Creek nor Chargepoint make any DC FCs.


Of the two Tucson Quick charge stations, one is at a Nissan Dealership (ABB I think is the manufacturer) and one is on the Chargepoint network, but Chargepoint has various manufacturers and participants in its network. So, while I think you are correct about Chargepoint not making DCQC, this does not preclude a Quick charge station from being on the Chargepoint network but being made by some other manufacturer.

The other station in Tucson has been somewhat troubled (though in the end, I've used it successfully about a dozen times over the last year, so it does work). There is a second similar one northwest of Tucson which has been bad. Both I think are Eaton hardware and this in the end has (as best I can tell, though I don't know all sides of it) been a contributing aspect of the reported issues.

http://www.plugshare.com/?location=18180
the one to the northwest:
http://api.plugshare.com/view/location/11856

I've used the Nissan dealer quick charger once and everything went smoothly. This was at the dealership I've dealt with for my Leaf. I just wish they would:

- locate the charge stations outside the dealership walls so they'd be available outside dealership hours.
- consider locating in other areas, such as outside the walls of sister dealerships.

In response to your other earlier question as to updates:
1. The other day when I went to the CHAdeMO website, I couldn't get the map to work for me, but now it does seem to do so, providing an overview of the present status in the US:

http://www.chademo.com/wp/usmap/

2. I started a different thread recently as to trying to address some frustration with the slow pace of DCQC rollout in many areas, and outside of major cities:

viewtopic.php?f=27&t=17744
Point of Disappointment with Nissan - no DCQCs yet on my rte
Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:30 pm

Just to emphasize, the main point (for me) of making known this point is not to engage in complaining, but to help Nissan understand that this is one of a smaller number of points that are of higher importance to me as a Leaf driver, and so am hoping they take it constructively.
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Re: Thread for suggested locations for Nissan Charge Station

Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:32 pm

this chart seems helpful overall for getting a sense of progress on installing DCQC around the world:

http://www.chademo.com/wp/wp-content/up ... tation.pdf

I have suggested at some other time (I don't recall in which thread) and will re-suggest here:

An interesting feature to a map like this:

http://www.chademo.com/wp/usmap/

or this:

http://www.plugshare.com/

might be if someone were to create a way to mark the maps with locations that don't presently have charging, but for which drivers would like to "vote" that a charge station be installed.
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Re: Thread for suggested locations for Nissan Charge Station

Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:11 pm

jlsoaz wrote:Of the two Tucson Quick charge stations, one is at a Nissan Dealership (ABB I think is the manufacturer) and one is on the Chargepoint network, but Chargepoint has various manufacturers and participants in its network. So, while I think you are correct about Chargepoint not making DCQC, this does not preclude a Quick charge station from being on the Chargepoint network but being made by some other manufacturer.

Yep. The http://nissanqc.com/ at http://www.plugshare.com/?location=14866 got put on Chargepoint months ago. I'd imagine it was part of the viewtopic.php?f=6&t=15867 effort.

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Re: Thread for suggested locations for Nissan Charge Station

Mon Sep 01, 2014 8:14 am

I'm sure it's been asked before, but why is Nissan letting the dealers shoot it in the foot? Things like CHAdeMOs being unavailable after dealership hours just make the thin infrastructure far less useful.

(I was recently surprised to find the DC I used at 9PM on a Sunday night a few months ago is now padlocked even during business hours!)
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Re: Thread for suggested locations for Nissan Charge Station

Mon Sep 01, 2014 8:56 am

State of VA has 8 DC chargers, 7 of them are within 20 miles of each other around Alexandria/DC. Sure would be nice to have 1 around Richmond or Williamsburg and Norfolk.
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Re: Thread for suggested locations for Nissan Charge Station

Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:23 pm

jlv wrote:I'm sure it's been asked before, but why is Nissan letting the dealers shoot it in the foot? Things like CHAdeMOs being unavailable after dealership hours just make the thin infrastructure far less useful.

(I was recently surprised to find the DC I used at 9PM on a Sunday night a few months ago is now padlocked even during business hours!)


Good question, one I've been mulling over, though not phrased the same way. I guess I've been seeing it as Nissan framing their approach to US EVSE partially through their dealerships, but not realizing this isn't that useful to us. Sometimes I think of the baseball addage "Hit it where they ain't". It's not that it's really the same principle, but I can't help but think of it. Tesla puts a superCharger in the middle of nowhere, but that doesn't mean they're wrong, it means (IMO) they're doing a good job of thinking through the matter of making it easier for their drivers to consider where they want to go and charging they might need along the way.
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Re: Thread for suggested locations for Nissan Charge Stations?

Mon Jan 11, 2016 5:35 pm

Dealership placement: Don't park regular cars in the charge spot. The dealership near me is not very good about this since the charge spot is right by their service bay door.

I have heard of a few people going up Rt 1 to Acadia National Park in Maine. Right now there are dealership charge spots on the highway, but of course the highway sucks down the mileage. It would be great to have charge spots up and down coastal rt 1. But really, wouldn't it be awesome if the dealers all teamed up together and connected every national park by charging stations!! *I can dream*
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Re: Thread for suggested locations for Nissan Charge Stations?

Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:17 pm

Seems like Nissan is soliciting input at https://www.facebook.com/NissanElectric ... 614597796/.

They said
In honor of National Drive Electric Week, we're asking you where you'd like to see the nation's largest metro-area fast-charging network expand. Share the city you think needs extra charging support with #LEAFCharger.

Go comment on that thread on where and why.

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